ECN interoperability (was Re: unable to send email to some domains)

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Rgoer,

I'm suggesting that ECN could be turned off in *retransmitted* SYN
packets, i.e. those where no response was received, so Linux with
ECN would interoperate with sites that *drop ECN packets on the floor*.

Of course you're right that it would be a bad idea to retry without
ECN in the original poster's case, when the connection was refused
(i.e. a RST response was received).  I'll change the Subject: to
avoid further confusion.

Jim

Rogier Wolff wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 06:26:10PM -0700, Jim Castleberry wrote:
> 
>>Maybe a silly question:  Couldn't Linux turn off ECN in retransmitted
>>SYN packets, so it would still work with sites that drop ECN packets
>>on the floor?
> 
> 
> If they were dropping the ECN-enabled packets, yes. However instead
> of dropping the packets, they are REJECTING the connection with
> a fully valid "I dont' want to talk to you". Retrying the connection
> without ECN would cause at least double traffic on connections that
> are legitimately refused. 
> 
> 				Roger. 
> 

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