> This is a FACT. Therefore, the situation isn't quite so utopian like > you describe it. TOE, how companies want to do it now, is incompatible > wholly with open source. Yes, you are right. So two ways are: either the TOE industry needs some education, or we need to sit down and think about how to do it. The goal again, is to come up with optimal solutions (from engineering standpoint), the constraints of this optimization problem being all the business matters (very non-linear constraints :) ). But i believe there must be a way. Jordi -----Original Message----- From: linux-net-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-net-owner@vger.kernel.org]On Behalf Of David S. Miller Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 12:17 AM To: jros@ece.uci.edu Cc: erich@uruk.org; dennis@etinc.com; jgarzik@pobox.com; linux-net@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Complete TCP offload (or it's likeness)... From: "Jordi Ros" <jros@ece.uci.edu> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 00:03:32 -0700 The nice thing is that open source allows for people to scratch their heads to come up with better solutions. In fact, i have worked with the Linux kernel and i myself You keep talking about open source this and that, but fail to deal with the issue I brought up which is that all these TOE people will be using proprietary firmware. This is a FACT. Therefore, the situation isn't quite so utopian like you describe it. TOE, how companies want to do it now, is incompatible wholly with open source. And since you won't listen to me, I don't understand how you expect me to do the same for you. Yes I realize the bandwidth savings that could be had if we terminated TCP connections mid-way across the net, but you are talking about specialized systems sitting on optics, ie. routers and gateways. There is this huge company that specializes in this area, doing funny hw optimizations on routers, why not leave it to them until the firmware is open and the hardware is commoditized? :-) - : send the line "unsubscribe linux-net" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html - : send the line "unsubscribe linux-net" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
