Keith Owens wrote: > > On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 07:49:00 -0500, > Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com> wrote: > >Keith Owens wrote: > >> I prefer a requirement that all net drivers upgrade to the new > >> interface, otherwise we have odd drivers using the old interface > >> forever and being at risk of module unload. That is why I coded my > >> patch as returning -ENODEV if there was no dev->open. However I have > >> to accept that just before a 2.4 release is not the best time to have a > >> flag day. Put it down for 2.5. > > > >What is "it" that gets put off until 2.5? Breaking net drivers with an > >interface upgrade, or eliminating this race? > > Forcing all network drivers to define a dev->open routine. > > >There is absolutely no need to break drivers for this. Not only is it > >needless pain, but doing so is inconsistent -- with struct > >file_operations, I am free to have owner==NULL. > > True, but if you set owner==NULL for something that is really in a > module then you are lying to the module layer. See foot, shoot foot. You are missing the point here. If a driver is "old style", where owner==NULL and it manually calls MOD_{INC,DEC}_USE_COUNT, things are pretty much ok. There is a tiny race, but the system is mostly intact. For never drivers "that matter," we update them to set net_device::owner. But to me breaking all the net drivers to force such a change is silly. For such a tiny race, there just isn't a pressing need to update the stinkbomb crapola drivers... Jeff -- Jeff Garzik | "When I do this, my computer freezes." Building 1024 | -user MandrakeSoft | "Don't do that." | -level 1 - : send the line "unsubscribe linux-net" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org