> On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 at 07:36, Ricky WU <ricky_wu@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Hi Ulf Hansson, > > > > Can I know what is this patch status or has some concern on this patch? > > Didn't you read my earlier replies? > Are you talking about BFQ for testing speed? Because we tested the Read/Write speed are better than before and our customer that uses our reader on their product also tested the Read/Write speed, they want us to push this patch on > Kind regards > Uffe > > > > > Ricky > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 10:57 PM > > > To: Ricky WU <ricky_wu@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Cc: tommyhebb@xxxxxxxxx; linux-mmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > > > linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mmc: rtsx: improve performance for multi block rw > > > > > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 at 07:43, Ricky WU <ricky_wu@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 7:11 PM > > > > > To: Ricky WU <ricky_wu@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Cc: tommyhebb@xxxxxxxxx; linux-mmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > > > > > linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mmc: rtsx: improve performance for multi > > > > > block rw > > > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have any suggestion for testing random I/O But we > > > > > > > > > > think random I/O will not change much > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would probably look into using fio, > > > > > > > > > https://fio.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Filled random I/O data > > > > > > > > Before the patch: > > > > > > > > CMD (Randread): > > > > > > > > sudo fio -filename=/dev/mmcblk0 -direct=1 -numjobs=1 -thread > > > > > > > > -group_reporting -ioengine=psync -iodepth=1 -size=1G > > > > > > > > -name=mytest -bs=1M -rw=randread > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for running the tests! Overall, I would not expect an > > > > > > > impact on the throughput when using a big blocksize like 1M. > > > > > > > This is also pretty clear from the result you have provided. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, especially for random writes and reads, we want to try > > > > > > > with smaller blocksizes. Like 8k or 16k, would you mind running > > > > > > > another round of tests to see how that works out? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Filled random I/O data(8k/16k) > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ricky, > > > > > > > > > > Apologize for the delay! Thanks for running the tests. Let me > > > > > comment on them below. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Before(randread) > > > > > > 8k: > > > > > > Cmd: sudo fio -filename=/dev/mmcblk0 -direct=1 -numjobs=1 -thread > > > > > > -group_reporting -ioengine=psync -iodepth=1 -size=1G -name=mytest > > > > > > -bs=8k -rw=randread > > > > > > mytest: (g=0): rw=randread, bs=(R) 8192B-8192B, (W) 8192B-8192B, > > > > > > (T) 8192B-8192B, ioengine=psync, iodepth=1 > > > > > > result: > > > > > > Run status group 0 (all jobs): > > > > > > READ: bw=16.5MiB/s (17.3MB/s), 16.5MiB/s-16.5MiB/s > > > > > > (17.3MB/s-17.3MB/s), io=1024MiB (1074MB), > run=62019-62019msec > > > Disk > > > > > stats (read/write): > > > > > > mmcblk0: ios=130757/0, merge=0/0, ticks=57751/0, > in_queue=57751, > > > > > > util=99.89% > > > > > > > > > > > > 16k: > > > > > > Cmd: sudo fio -filename=/dev/mmcblk0 -direct=1 -numjobs=1 -thread > > > > > > -group_reporting -ioengine=psync -iodepth=1 -size=1G -name=mytest > > > > > > -bs=16k -rw=randread > > > > > > mytest: (g=0): rw=randread, bs=(R) 16.0KiB-16.0KiB, (W) > > > > > > 16.0KiB-16.0KiB, (T) 16.0KiB-16.0KiB, ioengine=psync, iodepth=1 > > > > > > result: > > > > > > Run status group 0 (all jobs): > > > > > > READ: bw=23.3MiB/s (24.4MB/s), 23.3MiB/s-23.3MiB/s > > > > > > (24.4MB/s-24.4MB/s), io=1024MiB (1074MB), > run=44034-44034msec > > > Disk > > > > > stats (read/write): > > > > > > mmcblk0: ios=65333/0, merge=0/0, ticks=39420/0, > in_queue=39420, > > > > > > util=99.84% > > > > > > > > > > > > Before(randrwrite) > > > > > > 8k: > > > > > > Cmd: sudo fio -filename=/dev/mmcblk0 -direct=1 -numjobs=1 -thread > > > > > > -group_reporting -ioengine=psync -iodepth=1 -size=100M > > > > > > -name=mytest -bs=8k -rw=randwrite > > > > > > mytest: (g=0): rw=randwrite, bs=(R) 8192B-8192B, (W) 8192B-8192B, > > > > > > (T) 8192B-8192B, ioengine=psync, iodepth=1 > > > > > > result: > > > > > > Run status group 0 (all jobs): > > > > > > WRITE: bw=4060KiB/s (4158kB/s), 4060KiB/s-4060KiB/s > > > > > > (4158kB/s-4158kB/s), io=100MiB (105MB), run=25220-25220msec > Disk > > > > > > stats > > > > > (read/write): > > > > > > mmcblk0: ios=51/12759, merge=0/0, ticks=80/24154, > > > > > > in_queue=24234, util=99.90% > > > > > > > > > > > > 16k: > > > > > > Cmd: sudo fio -filename=/dev/mmcblk0 -direct=1 -numjobs=1 -thread > > > > > > -group_reporting -ioengine=psync -iodepth=1 -size=100M > > > > > > -name=mytest -bs=16k -rw=randwrite > > > > > > mytest: (g=0): rw=randwrite, bs=(R) 16.0KiB-16.0KiB, (W) > > > > > > 16.0KiB-16.0KiB, (T) 16.0KiB-16.0KiB, ioengine=psync, iodepth=1 > > > > > > result: > > > > > > Run status group 0 (all jobs): > > > > > > WRITE: bw=7201KiB/s (7373kB/s), 7201KiB/s-7201KiB/s > > > > > > (7373kB/s-7373kB/s), io=100MiB (105MB), run=14221-14221msec > Disk > > > > > > stats > > > > > (read/write): > > > > > > mmcblk0: ios=51/6367, merge=0/0, ticks=82/13647, > in_queue=13728, > > > > > > util=99.81% > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After(randread) > > > > > > 8k: > > > > > > Cmd: sudo fio -filename=/dev/mmcblk0 -direct=1 -numjobs=1 -thread > > > > > > -group_reporting -ioengine=psync -iodepth=1 -size=1G -name=mytest > > > > > > -bs=8k -rw=randread > > > > > > mytest: (g=0): rw=randread, bs=(R) 8192B-8192B, (W) 8192B-8192B, > > > > > > (T) 8192B-8192B, ioengine=psync, iodepth=1 > > > > > > result: > > > > > > Run status group 0 (all jobs): > > > > > > READ: bw=12.4MiB/s (13.0MB/s), 12.4MiB/s-12.4MiB/s > > > > > > (13.0MB/s-13.0MB/s), io=1024MiB (1074MB), > run=82397-82397msec > > > Disk > > > > > stats (read/write): > > > > > > mmcblk0: ios=130640/0, merge=0/0, ticks=74125/0, > in_queue=74125, > > > > > > util=99.94% > > > > > > > > > > > > 16k: > > > > > > Cmd: sudo fio -filename=/dev/mmcblk0 -direct=1 -numjobs=1 -thread > > > > > > -group_reporting -ioengine=psync -iodepth=1 -size=1G -name=mytest > > > > > > -bs=16k -rw=randread > > > > > > mytest: (g=0): rw=randread, bs=(R) 16.0KiB-16.0KiB, (W) > > > > > > 16.0KiB-16.0KiB, (T) 16.0KiB-16.0KiB, ioengine=psync, iodepth=1 > > > > > > result: > > > > > > Run status group 0 (all jobs): > > > > > > READ: bw=20.0MiB/s (21.0MB/s), 20.0MiB/s-20.0MiB/s > > > > > > (21.0MB/s-21.0MB/s), io=1024MiB (1074MB), > run=51076-51076msec > > > Disk > > > > > stats (read/write): > > > > > > mmcblk0: ios=65282/0, merge=0/0, ticks=46255/0, > in_queue=46254, > > > > > > util=99.87% > > > > > > > > > > > > After(randwrite) > > > > > > 8k: > > > > > > Cmd: sudo fio -filename=/dev/mmcblk0 -direct=1 -numjobs=1 -thread > > > > > > -group_reporting -ioengine=psync -iodepth=1 -size=100M > > > > > > -name=mytest -bs=8k -rw=randwrite > > > > > > mytest: (g=0): rw=randwrite, bs=(R) 8192B-8192B, (W) 8192B-8192B, > > > > > > (T) 8192B-8192B, ioengine=psync, iodepth=1 > > > > > > result: > > > > > > Run status group 0 (all jobs): > > > > > > WRITE: bw=4215KiB/s (4317kB/s), 4215KiB/s-4215KiB/s > > > > > > (4317kB/s-4317kB/s), io=100MiB (105MB), run=24292-24292msec > Disk > > > > > > stats > > > > > (read/write): > > > > > > mmcblk0: ios=52/12717, merge=0/0, ticks=86/23182, > > > > > > in_queue=23267, util=99.92% > > > > > > > > > > > > 16k: > > > > > > Cmd: sudo fio -filename=/dev/mmcblk0 -direct=1 -numjobs=1 -thread > > > > > > -group_reporting -ioengine=psync -iodepth=1 -size=100M > > > > > > -name=mytest -bs=16k -rw=randwrite > > > > > > mytest: (g=0): rw=randwrite, bs=(R) 16.0KiB-16.0KiB, (W) > > > > > > 16.0KiB-16.0KiB, (T) 16.0KiB-16.0KiB, ioengine=psync, iodepth=1 > > > > > > result: > > > > > > Run status group 0 (all jobs): > > > > > > WRITE: bw=6499KiB/s (6655kB/s), 6499KiB/s-6499KiB/s > > > > > > (6655kB/s-6655kB/s), io=100MiB (105MB), run=15756-15756msec > Disk > > > > > > stats > > > > > (read/write): > > > > > > mmcblk0: ios=51/6347, merge=0/0, ticks=84/15120, > in_queue=15204, > > > > > > util=99.80% > > > > > > > > > > It looks like the rand-read tests above are degrading with the new > > > > > changes, while rand-writes are both improving and degrading. > > > > > > > > > > To summarize my view from all the tests you have done at this point > > > > > (thanks a lot); it looks like the block I/O merging isn't really > > > > > happening at common blocklayer, at least to that extent that would > > > > > benefit us. Clearly you have shown that by the suggested change in > > > > > the mmc host driver, by detecting whether the "next" request is > > > > > sequential to the previous one, which allows us to skip a > > > > > CMD12 and minimize some command overhead. > > > > > > > > > > However, according to the latest tests above, you have also proved > > > > > that the changes in the mmc host driver doesn't come without a cost. > > > > > In particular, small random-reads would degrade in performance from > > > > > these changes. > > > > > > > > > > That said, it looks to me that rather than trying to improve things > > > > > for one specific mmc host driver, it would be better to look at this > > > > > from the generic block layer point of view - and investigate why > > > > > sequential reads/writes aren't getting merged often enough for the > > > > > MMC/SD case. If we can fix the problem there, all mmc host drivers > would > > > benefit I assume. > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you are thinking about how to patch this in MMC/SD? > > > > I don't know if this method is compatible with other MMC Hosts? Or > > > > they need to patch other code on their host driver > > > > > > I would not limit this to the core layer of MMC/SD. The point I was trying to > > > make was that it doesn't look like the generic block layer is merging the > > > sequential I/O requests in the most efficient way, at least for the eMMC/SD > > > devices. Why this is the case, I can't tell. It looks like we need to do some > more > > > in-depth analysis to understand why merging isn't efficient for us. > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, have you tried with different I/O schedulers? If you haven't > > > > > tried BFQ, I suggest you do as it's a good fit for MMC/SD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don’t know what is different I/O schedulers means? > > > > > > What I/O scheduler did you use when running the test? > > > > > > For MMC/SD the only one that makes sense to use is BFQ, however that > needs > > > to be configured via sysfs after boot. There is no way, currently, to make it > the > > > default, I think. You may look at Documentation/block/bfq-iosched.rst, if > you > > > are more interested. > > > > > > Kind regards > > > Uffe > > > ------Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. > >
