On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 at 13:04, Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > > Considering the data integrity, we did a random power-down test, and > > > the experimental results were good. > > > > > > FUA can only reduce data loss under abnormal conditions, but cannot > > > prevent data loss under abnormal conditions. > > > > > > I think there should be a balance between FUA and NO FUA, but > > > filesystems seem to favor FUA. > > > > > > FUA brings a drop in random write performance. If enough tests are > > > done, NO FUA is acceptable. > > > > Testing this isn't entirely easy. It requires you to hook up > > electrical switches to allow you to automate the powering on/off of > > the platform(s). Then at each cycle, really make sure to stress test > > the data integrity of the flash memory. Is that what the tests did - > > or can you elaborate a bit on what was really tested? > > > > In any case, the performance impact boils down to how each eMMC/SD > > card internally manages reliable writes vs regular writes. Some > > vendors may treat them very similarly, while others do not. > > > > That said, trying to disable REQ_FUA from an mmc host driver is the > > wrong approach, as also pointed out by Adrian above. These types of > > decisions belong solely in the mmc core layer. > > > > Instead of what the $subject series proposes, I would rather suggest > > we discuss (and test) whether it could make sense to disable REQ_FUA - > > *if* the eMMC/SD card supports a write-back-cache (REQ_OP_FLUSH) too. > > Hence, the mmc core could then announce only REQ_OP_FLUSH. > > > > Below is a simple patch that does the above. We may not want to enable > this for *all* eMMC/SD cards, but it works fine for testing and to > continue the discussions here. > > > From: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@xxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 12:48:02 +0100 > Subject: [PATCH] mmc: core: Disable REQ_FUA if the card supports an internal > cache > > !!!! This is not for merge, but only for test and discussions!!! > > It has been reported that REQ_FUA can be costly on some eMMC devices. A > potential option that could mitigate this problem, is to rely solely on > REQ_OP_FLUSH instead, but that requires the eMMC/SD to support an internal > cache. This is an attempt to try this out to see how it behaves. > > Signed-off-by: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@xxxxxxxxxx> > --- > drivers/mmc/core/block.c | 10 +++++----- > 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/drivers/mmc/core/block.c b/drivers/mmc/core/block.c > index db6d8a099910..197e9f6cdaad 100644 > --- a/drivers/mmc/core/block.c > +++ b/drivers/mmc/core/block.c > @@ -2494,15 +2494,15 @@ static struct mmc_blk_data > *mmc_blk_alloc_req(struct mmc_card *card, > md->flags |= MMC_BLK_CMD23; > } > > - if (md->flags & MMC_BLK_CMD23 && > - ((card->ext_csd.rel_param & EXT_CSD_WR_REL_PARAM_EN) || > - card->ext_csd.rel_sectors)) { > + if (mmc_cache_enabled(card->host)) { > + cache_enabled = true; > + } else if (md->flags & MMC_BLK_CMD23 && > + (card->ext_csd.rel_param & EXT_CSD_WR_REL_PARAM_EN || > + card->ext_csd.rel_sectors)) { > md->flags |= MMC_BLK_REL_WR; > fua_enabled = true; > cache_enabled = true; > } > - if (mmc_cache_enabled(card->host)) > - cache_enabled = true; > > blk_queue_write_cache(md->queue.queue, cache_enabled, fua_enabled); > > -- > 2.34.1 Wenchao, Did you manage to try the above patch to see if that could improve the situation? Kind regards Uffe