On 06/10/16 04:34, Shawn Lin wrote: > On 2016/10/6 5:22, Julia Cartwright wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 03:03:44PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote: >>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> On 23 September 2016 at 22:01, Zach Brown <zach.brown@xxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> Certain board configurations can make highspeed malfunction due to >>>>> timing issues. In these cases a way is needed to force the controller >>>>> and card into standard speed even if they otherwise appear to be capable >>>>> of highspeed. >>>>> >>>>> The sd-broken-highspeed property will let the sdhci driver know that >>>>> highspeed will not work. >>>>> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Zach Brown <zach.brown@xxxxxx> >>>>> --- >>>>> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc.txt | 2 ++ >>>>> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+) >>>>> >>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc.txt >>>>> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc.txt >>>>> index 8a37782..59332ea 100644 >>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc.txt >>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc.txt >>>>> @@ -52,6 +52,8 @@ Optional properties: >>>>> - no-sdio: controller is limited to send sdio cmd during initialization >>>>> - no-sd: controller is limited to send sd cmd during initialization >>>>> - no-mmc: controller is limited to send mmc cmd during initialization >>>>> +- sd-broken-highspeed: Highspeed is broken, even if the controller and >>>>> card >>>>> + themselves claim they support highspeed. >>>> >>>> Regarding a broken card, that is managed via the card quirks and not in DT. >>>> >>>> If this is about a controller limitation, we already have the option >>>> to describe what it supports, so we don't need an option to tell what >>>> it *not* supports. >>>> >>>> For example "cap-sd-highspeed" tells whether the controller supports >>>> SD high-speed, please use that instead. >>> >>> If a controller has a capability register and it lies (perhaps the >>> board has limitations that the SoC does not), then you may need to >>> disable a feature. >> >> That's precisely the case here. This is a board-level problem, not a >> card or controller problem. As Zach mentioned in the cover letter, the >> trace length between controller and card on some of our boards is too >> long to meet high-speed timings, even though both card and controller >> advertise it. > > IIRC, I saw the same problem while using sdhci to bring up a > industrial board for vehicle. The trace length is so long that > I have to limit the max-frequency to make it works properly when > running at hishspeed. > > So could you try to limit the max-frequency in your DT to see > if it could work for you? I guess it should work as once reducing > the frequency, the timing per cycle will be large enough to meet > the spec. At least that helped me solve my problem. > > For further consideration, I deployed a mechanism called "tuning for > non UHS or non-hs200/400" for my donwstream tree at that time. The basic > concept is to ask devices to send ext_csd(or send status for SD case) > *repeatedly*. Some hosts, i.e. sdhci-of-arasan or dw_mmc-rockchip, can > manually set rx delay via some clock unit registers to capture the > working sample window and select the middle point of the longest good > phase region. The same for retune. But it is a little complicated, and > could only be applicable to the hosts who could adjust the rx delay > manually when claiming the caps of MMC_CAPS_CAN_TUNING_FOR_HS, whatever > the name is... > > I don't know if it is worth to add this, and I don't know if it's > a legit way. Anyway, I just share my thought(experience) for you and > linux-mmc to think more about how to deal with the case you meet rather > than sacrificing the performence by removing highspeed or reducing > frequency.. > As Shawn points out, using max-frequency is a possibility. Did you consider that? There are 2 high speed caps: cap-sd-highspeed cap-mmc-highspeed Yet patch in 2, the effect of sd-broken-highspeed is to suppress highspeed for both SD and MMC. Should it then be called just broken-highspeed? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-mmc" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
