On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 4:09 AM, Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 21 June 2016 at 23:26, Rob Herring <robh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:11:17AM +0800, Peter Chen wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 11:16:07AM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
>>> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 07:26:51PM +0800, Peter Chen wrote:
>>> > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:16:48PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
>>> > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 5:09 AM, Peter Chen <peter.chen@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> > > > > Add binding doc for generic usb power sequence driver, and update
>>> > > > > generic usb device binding-doc accordingly.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> > > clocks = <&clks IMX6SX_CLK_CKO>;
>>> > >
>>> > > #address-cells = <1>;
>>> > > #size-cells = <0>;
>>> > > ethernet: asix@1 {
>>> > > compatible = "usbb95,1708";
>>> > > reg = <1>;
>>> > >
>>> > > power-sequence;
>>> > > reset-gpios = <&gpio4 6 GPIO_ACTIVE_LOW>; /* ethernet_rst */
>>> > > reset-duration-us = <15>;
>>> > > clocks = <&clks IMX6SX_CLK_IPG>;
>>> > > };
>>> > > };
>>> > > };
>>> > >
>>> > > If the node has property "power-sequence", the pwrseq core will create
>>> > > related platform device, and the driver under pwrseq driver will handle
>>> > > power sequence stuffs.
>>> >
>>> > This I have issue with. If you are creating a platform device here, you
>>> > are trying to work-around limitations in the linux driver model.
>
> I somewhat understand your point.
>
> Although, having the option to use a driver (which requires a device)
> has turned out to be quite convenient from many aspects - at least in
> the mmc case.
>
> Certainly one can do without it, but in the end using a driver avoids
> open coding.
Why would it be open coded? Just create library functions to parse the
node and implement the generic pwr-seq steps.
>>> My current solution like below, but it seems you didn't agree with that.
>>> I just double confirm here, if you don't, I give up the solution for
>>> using generic power sequence framework.
>>>
>>> In drivers/usb/core/hub.c
>>>
>>> for_each_child_of_node(parent->of_node, node) {
>>> hdev_pwrseq = pwrseq_alloc(node, "usb_pwrseq_generic");
>>> if (!IS_ERR_OR_NULL(hdev_pwrseq)) {
>>> pwrseq_node = kzalloc(sizeof(pwrseq_node), GFP_KERNEL);
>>> if (!pwrseq_node) {
>>> ret = -ENOMEM;
>>> goto err1;
>>> }
>>> /* power on sequence */
>>> ret = pwrseq_pre_power_on(hdev_pwrseq);
>>
>> Why does this function need to do anything more than:
>>
>> - Check if the child has a "power-sequence" property
>> - Get the "reset-gpios" GPIO
>> - Assert reset for specified/default time
>> - Deassert reset
>>
>> Then continue on as normal. That seems straight-forward to me.
>>
>> There is no reason you need a platform device in the mix. Perhaps trying
>> to move the MMC pwr-seq code is pointless as it adds needless
>> complexity.
>
> Complexity?
>
> The problem we are tying to solve, is to make the various platform/SoC
> specific power sequences to be able to live in generic drivers.
>
> One could decide to encode the sequences inside the driver code
> itself, but it will soon turn into a mess and more importantly, lots
> of open coding as to support different platforms/SoCs. To most kernel
> hackers I don't think this is an option to consider.
I'm not proposing open coding, but having generic library functions.
I'm not saying the mmc pwr-seq has to change from being a driver
either. Leave it as is. I'm only talking about Krzysztof's new
proposal.
> The MMC pwr-seq code/drivers tries to address these issues - in a
> somewhat generic way.
> Initially we have decided to start with only a few flavours of
> supported sequences and so far these have been sufficient.
Only a few because we've pushed back against defining state machines in DT.
> Finally, I am indeed concerned that it so hard to agree on a solution
> to deal with generic power sequences. There have been many attempts
> throughout the last ~4-5 years, but peoples strong opinions about
> different approaches mad them all fail. Isn't it time to finally just
> pick a solution and stick with it, even if it doesn't meet all peoples
> expectations?
No. I'm pretty that is not how kernel development works. Features get
merged when all are happy (or not paying attention).
>From what I recall, all attempts have worked around the problem that
the driver model has no way to either force probe or provide a
pre-probe hook on probeable buses. This then leads to the work-around
defining the DT binding.
Rob
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