On 28/04/16 17:28, Dong Aisheng wrote: > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 04:36:25PM +0300, Adrian Hunter wrote: >> On 28/04/16 16:14, Dong Aisheng wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 09:39:54AM +0300, Adrian Hunter wrote: >>>> On 28/04/16 06:09, Dong Aisheng wrote: >>>>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 11:26:52PM +0300, Adrian Hunter wrote: >>>>>> On 24/04/2016 12:14 p.m., Dong Aisheng wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Adrian, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the review first. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 7:43 PM, Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 15/04/16 20:29, Dong Aisheng wrote: >>>>>>>>> Handle host and regulator signal voltage switch separately. >>>>>>>>> Move host signal voltage switch code into a separated function >>>>>>>>> sdhci_do_signal_voltage_switch() first, the following patches will >>>>>>>>> remove the regulator voltage switch code and use the common >>>>>>>>> mmc_regulator_set_vqmmc() instead. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You have changed the order that things are done. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, the oder changes a bit that we always do controller voltage switch first. >>>>>>> I suppose the order is irrelevant here since i don't recall any >>>>>>> requirement from card. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Actually the original order is also a bit mass. >>>>>>> e.g. >>>>>>> For MMC_SIGNAL_VOLTAGE_330, switch controller first, then vqmmc. >>>>>>> But for MMC_SIGNAL_VOLTAGE_180, switch vqmmc first, then controller. >>>>>>> It looks to us the original one also order irrelevant. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is no way to know >>>>>>>> what that will break, so let's not do that. What about just changing >>>>>>>> regulator_set_voltage() to mmc_regulator_set_vqmmc()? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Currently what i can think out VIO switch using are three cases: (Pls >>>>>>> help add if any) >>>>>>> 1) Both host IO and card IO use external vqmmc to do switch >>>>>>> (e.g eMMC 1.8V DDR/HS200/HS400 mode) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> eMMC has no IO voltage switch protocol and requirement, so usually >>>>>>> board designed >>>>>>> using fixed 1.8V for eMMC and host IO. >>>>>>> Event it's switchable, it should be done in the first mmc_power_up(). >>>>>>> Dynamical switch later may cause eMMC unable to work properly. >>>>>>> (We have been confirmed about this issue by many eMMC vendors >>>>>>> like Micron and Sandisk. I'm not sure if any exceptions in the community >>>>>>> still doing VIO dynamical switch for eMMC, if yes, please help share >>>>>>> the experience!). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Event some people still do dynamical IO switch for eMMC, since eMMC >>>>>>> spec has no requirement, so the order should also not care. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) Host using controller IO switch while card using standard CMD (SD/SDIO3.0) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> SD/SDIO 3.0 spec defines the standard IO switch process and using it's internal >>>>>>> regulator to do card IO voltage switch. It does not use external vqmmc >>>>>>> regulator. >>>>>>> So order irrelevant too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3) Host using controller IO switch while card using external vqmmc >>>>>>> (special SDIO3.0 or eMMC) >>>>>>> I have met some special SDIO3.0 card like Broadcom WiFi which does not follow >>>>>>> the spec and using external regulator for card IO voltage. >>>>>>> Usually it's required to fix to 1.8v and also not order irrelevant. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For eMMC, refer to case 1), it should be fixed to 1.8v at power up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So it looks all cases seems are not order required. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't agree that there is any way to know that other host controllers >>>>>> are not affected. I don't want a repeat of sdhci_set_power(). >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Can you share some more info about sdhci_set_power() issue? >>>>> I'd like to see if we are same the issue. >>>> >>>> Not the same issue, but the same concept. People changing the code under >>>> the impression that their way was correct, and then breaking other people's >>>> drivers. Check the git history and mailing list. >>>> >>>> http://marc.info/?l=linux-mmc&m=145880454106474&w=2 >>>> >>> >>> Yes, now i understand your concern. >>> >>>>> >>>>> BTW, IMHO i don't think we should stop keep moving only afraid of potential >>>>> break if it's correct way. Because .start_signal_voltage_switch() interface >>>>> seems shouldn't be order dependant. >>>>> If it is, then it should be fixed and handled in high layer like MMC core >>>>> rather than in host driver. Right? >>>> >>>> The SDHCI spec. does not define how to use external regulators, so there is >>>> no "correct way". >>>> >>> >>> The "correct way" i mean here is .start_signal_voltage_switch() shouldn't be >>> order dependant, would you agree? >> >> No. There is no way to know if the regulator must be switched before or >> after the host controller register is changed. >> > > Hmm... If there is no way to know the correct order, how can we > assume the exist order is correct? There is no correct order. This is outside the SDHCI spec. and so belongs to individual drivers. If it mattered we could push the ugly code down onto the drivers, and then driver maintainers could opt to use the new pretty code. However at the moment there is a lot more important work, so I would want to avoid that code churn. > And i already pointed out, the exist order is also confused that > it switch controller first then vqmmc for 3.3v and switch vqmmc > first, then controller for 1.8v > > If we can't sure the exist order is correct, why do we block > the changing to correctly use mmc_regulator_set_vqmmc() to > improve the driver stability? Not sure what you mean here. I have already showed how we can use mmc_regulator_set_vqmmc(). > > And actually the change is not made arbitrarily, i already list > all possibilities based on my knowledge. People can raise more > if any. You are assuming every driver has a maintainer and every maintainer is following this thread, and understands how it might affect all the different versions of their hardware. That is extremely unlikely. > The target is correct that we make start_signal_voltage_switch() > order independant. > It's worth a try even there's a potential very low possibility > break IMHO. And so we disagree. Aren't your needs met by changing to use mmc_regulator_set_vqmmc() the way I suggested? > > Or else if we can find a better way to switch to > mmc_regulator_set_vqmmc i would also love to try. > > Maybe we need more people's thought on it! > > Ulf, > Would you give some inputs? > > Regards > Dong Aisheng > >>> >>>> We have to move forward *and* avoid potential breakage. >>>> >>> >>> If really break happens, fix platform driver, not common SDHCI. >>> That's the same thing you done for sdhci_set_power(). >> >> In that case the original behaviour was kept in the common SDHCI code and >> the driver had to provide its own way. >> >>> >>>> In this case it seems me that the risk of breakage outweighs the value of >>>> prettier code. >>>> >>> >>> Actually my main purpose is patch 6: using mmc_regulator_set_vqmmc() >>> which is worth and it does improve the stability and eliminate the >>> potential signal issue. >>> However it's not the same way as you proposed. >>> See below. >>> >>>> By the way, there are ways to get rid of the ugliness - such as pushing it down >>>> into individual drivers. >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Please instead send a patch for just using mmc_regulator_set_vqmmc() >>>>>> in place of regulator_set_voltage(). >>>>> >>>>> Just using mmc_regulator_set_vqmmc() also changes the order which >>>>> is the same situation. >>>> >>>> How so? It looks like a drop-in replacement to me: >>>> >>> >>> Sorry, i did not get that you want to change like below. >>> However, it looks that it does not make too much sense to call >>> mmc_regulator_set_vqmmc() for each VOLTAGE type like 3.3v/1.8v/1.2v >>> which introduces ugliness because mmc_regulator_set_vqmmc() >>> already handles it internally, right? >>> Only because we want to keep an "ASSUMED" order as before? >> >> Yes >> >>> >>> Regards >>> Dong Aisheng >>> >>>> diff --git a/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.c b/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.c >>>> index 94cffa77490a..69b4d48aff87 100644 >>>> --- a/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.c >>>> +++ b/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.c >>>> @@ -1757,8 +1757,7 @@ static int sdhci_do_start_signal_voltage_switch(struct sdhci_host *host, >>>> sdhci_writew(host, ctrl, SDHCI_HOST_CONTROL2); >>>> >>>> if (!IS_ERR(mmc->supply.vqmmc)) { >>>> - ret = regulator_set_voltage(mmc->supply.vqmmc, 2700000, >>>> - 3600000); >>>> + ret = mmc_regulator_set_vqmmc(mmc, ios); >>>> if (ret) { >>>> pr_warn("%s: Switching to 3.3V signalling voltage failed\n", >>>> mmc_hostname(mmc)); >>>> @@ -1779,8 +1778,7 @@ static int sdhci_do_start_signal_voltage_switch(struct sdhci_host *host, >>>> return -EAGAIN; >>>> case MMC_SIGNAL_VOLTAGE_180: >>>> if (!IS_ERR(mmc->supply.vqmmc)) { >>>> - ret = regulator_set_voltage(mmc->supply.vqmmc, >>>> - 1700000, 1950000); >>>> + ret = mmc_regulator_set_vqmmc(mmc, ios); >>>> if (ret) { >>>> pr_warn("%s: Switching to 1.8V signalling voltage failed\n", >>>> mmc_hostname(mmc)); >>>> @@ -1810,8 +1808,7 @@ static int sdhci_do_start_signal_voltage_switch(struct sdhci_host *host, >>>> return -EAGAIN; >>>> case MMC_SIGNAL_VOLTAGE_120: >>>> if (!IS_ERR(mmc->supply.vqmmc)) { >>>> - ret = regulator_set_voltage(mmc->supply.vqmmc, 1100000, >>>> - 1300000); >>>> + ret = mmc_regulator_set_vqmmc(mmc, ios); >>>> if (ret) { >>>> pr_warn("%s: Switching to 1.2V signalling voltage failed\n", >>>> mmc_hostname(mmc)); >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-mmc" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
