Hi Marek, Vladimir, On Sat, 2016-03-26 at 21:24 +-0100, Marek Vasut wrote: +AD4- On 03/26/2016 09:12 PM, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote: +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- On 26.03.2016 21:52, Marek Vasut wrote: +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- On 03/26/2016 07:16 PM, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote: +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- On 26.03.2016 20:10, Marek Vasut wrote: +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- On 03/26/2016 06:52 PM, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote: +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- Hi Marek, +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- On 26.03.2016 19:30, Marek Vasut wrote: +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- On 03/26/2016 06:26 PM, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote: +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- On 26.03.2016 12:14, Marek Vasut wrote: +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- Hi+ACE- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- I noticed that arch/arc/boot/dts/axs10x+AF8-mb.dtsi uses +ACI-altr,+ACI- prefix in +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- the DT compatible string: +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- mmc+AEA-0x15000 +AHs- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AKAAoACgAKAAoACgAKAAoA-compatible +AD0- +ACI-altr,socfpga-dw-mshc+ACIAOw- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AKAAoACgAKAAoACgAKAAoA-reg +AD0- +ADw- 0x15000 0x400 +AD4AOw- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AKAAoACgAKAAoACgAKAAoA-num-slots +AD0- +ADw- 1 +AD4AOw- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AKAAoACgAKAAoACgAKAAoA-fifo-depth +AD0- +ADw- 16 +AD4AOw- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AKAAoACgAKAAoACgAKAAoA-card-detect-delay +AD0- +ADw- 200 +AD4AOw- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AKAAoACgAKAAoACgAKAAoA-clocks +AD0- +ADwAJg-apbclk+AD4-, +ADwAJg-mmcclk+AD4AOw- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AKAAoACgAKAAoACgAKAAoA-clock-names +AD0- +ACI-biu+ACI-, +ACI-ciu+ACIAOw- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AKAAoACgAKAAoACgAKAAoA-interrupts +AD0- +ADw- 7 +AD4AOw- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AKAAoACgAKAAoACgAKAAoA-bus-width +AD0- +ADw- 4 +AD4AOw- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AH0AOw- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- I don't think this is OK, since ARC is unrelated to Altera, which is +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- what the +ACI-altr,+ACI- prefix stands for. I think the socfpga-dw-mshc shim +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- should be extended with another compatibility string, something like +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +ACI-snps,arc-dw-mshc+ACI- and the axs10x+AF8-mb.dtsi should be adjusted +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- accordingly. What do you think ? +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- There is +ACI-snps,dw-mshc+ACI- described in +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/synopsys-dw-mshc.txt and supported by +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- dw+AF8-mmc host controller driver. +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- Thanks, that's even better. +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- btw what do you think of using altr, prefix on non-altera system, that +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- doesn't seem ok, right ? +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- according to ePAPR the prefix should represent a device (IP block here +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- I believe) manufacturer, so it should be okay to use +ACI-altr+ACI- prefix on +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- non-Altera system, if Altera provides+AKAAoA-another hardware vendor with +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- some own IP block. +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- In this case, it's Synopsys who provides the SD/MMC/MS core to other +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- chip makers (Altera etc). +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- Correct. +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- That said, I would rather prefer to see +ACI-snps,dw-mshc+ACI- prefix on description +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- of an MMC controller found on SoCFPGA series, +ACI-altr,socfpga-dw-mshc+ACI- seems +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- to be redundant. +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- According to drivers/mmc/host/dw+AF8-mmc-pltfm.c , the Altera SoCFPGA one +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +ACI-altr,socfpga-dw-mshc+ACI- and also Imagination Technology Pistacio one +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +ACI-img,pistachio-dw-mshc+ACI- need specialty bit (SDMMC+AF8-CMD+AF8-USE+AF8-HOLD+AF8-REG), +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- while the stock one +ACI-snps,dw-mshc+ACI- does not. I am not sure if the ARC +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- one needs it as well, but most likely yes. +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- I wonder if that bit is needed on some particular version of the DWMMC +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- core. In that case, should we have +ACI-snps,dw-mshc+ACI- and +ACI-snps,dw-mshc-vN+ACI- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- binding ? Or should we use DT property to discern the need for this bit ? +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- That's the most common way to take into account peculiarities, add +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- a property and handle it from the driver. +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- And by +ACI-that+ACI- you mean which of those two I listed , the +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +ACI-snps,dw-mshc-vN+ACI- or adding new DT prop ? +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- I meant to add a new property, not a new compatible, but that's just +AD4- +AD4- my experience. +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- Let me say it +AF8AXw-might+AF8AXw- happen that a particular change you need is +AD4- +AD4- specific to a particular version of the DWMMC IP (query Synopsys +AD4- +AD4- by the way), but more probably it might be e.g. the same IP version with +AD4- +AD4- a different reduced or extended configuration or a minor fix/improvement +AD4- +AD4- to the IP block without resulting version number bump. +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- For example I don't remember that errata fixes in IP blocks result in +AD4- +AD4- a new compatible, instead there are quite common optional +ACI-quirk+ACI- +AD4- +AD4- properties for broken IPs -- e.g. check bindings/usb/dwc3.txt :) +AD4- Right, this very much matches how I see it as well. Thanks for confirming. +AD4- +AD4- Alexey, can you tell us if the requirement for setting +AD4- SDMMC+AF8-CMD+AF8-USE+AF8-HOLD+AF8-REG came with some new revision of the core or +AD4- disappeared with some revision OR if this is some configuration +AD4- option of the core during synthesis ? Sorry for not following that discussion during my weekend but I'll try to address all questions now. DW Mobile Storage databook says: ---------------------+AD4-8----------------------- To meet the relatively high Input Hold Time requirement for SDR12, SDR25, and other MMC speed modes, you should program bit+AFs-29+AF0-use+AF8-hold+AF8-Reg of the CMD register to 1'b1. ---------------------+AD4-8----------------------- So I'd say this specific setting has nothing to do with a particular IP block but instead it is related to card's mode of operation. More precisely bus clock. SDR12 stands for+AKA-12.5 MByte/s, SDR25 stands for+AKA-25 MByte/s. I.e. we probably need so set that bit just for certain cases and regardless board that uses DW MMC. I'm adding DW MMC maintainer as well as linux-mmc mailing list so people who understands that stuff better may comment here as well. -Alexey-- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-mmc" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
