Re: [RFC PATCH 1/1 v7]mmc: Support-FFU-for-eMMC-v5.0

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On 1 July 2014 17:47, Grant Grundler <grundler@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Chris Ball <chris@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi Grant, sorry about the delay.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 01 2014, Grant Grundler wrote:
>>> ping? Another week is past.
>>>
>>> I know you guys are busy with other stuff. But please at least publish
>>> what you think the next steps for this patch are.
>>>
>>> This is a critical patch for supporting eMMC products and adding
>>> additional support for other vendors. I'd like to continue working
>>> with "upstream" and the lack of response in this case is making this
>>> unnecessarily difficult.
>>
>> It's tough to merge a significant patch that you haven't tested and we
>> haven't tested.
>
> Hi Chris!
> Thanks for the response.
>
> You are correct that neither of us has tested the patch. But I know
> SanDisk, Samsung, and Kingston (IIRC) have.  And in the case that FFU
> doesn't work, contracts with these HW vendors require FFU works. So
> they have financial incentives to make it work. I'm comfortable with
> support that ChromeOS has for this patch in the long term.
>
> Most of the magic (for FFU and general flash operation) is in the
> Vendor Firmware. We depend on those vendors entirely for this to work
> correctly already. This is not a new dependency and looks more like
> collaboration when they supply the patch to support "industry
> standard" features (like FFU).
>
>>  We could do it, though -- I'd like to hear what Ulf thinks.
>
> Sure - me too. :)

Hi Grant,

Sorry for lack of input!

Unfortunate I am travelling and will have to come back to this next week.

>
>>  Please could you give a quick explanation of why doing this
>> in kernel-space makes more sense than using your mmc-utils version?
>
> Only the kernel can guarantee no other commands are sent to the device
> during FFU. User space can attempt to hold this promise but the
> constraints on when it can are pretty onerous. SanDisk is pushing this
> patch entirely for this reason and I agree it's a better solution.

I am open to consider this patch. From my point of view, I need some
additional time to review the code.

Kind regards
Uffe
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