Re: [PATCH 08/10] mmc: card: Use R1 response for the stop cmd at recovery path

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On 23 January 2014 15:29, Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 23/01/14 15:21, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>> On 23 January 2014 11:09, Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On 22/01/14 17:00, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>>>> Hosts supporting MMC_CAP_WAIT_WHILE_BUSY shall not be waiting for busy
>>>> detection completion in the recovery path, which were the case when
>>>> using R1B response.
>>>>
>>>> Start using R1 as response instead to align behavior, no matter if
>>>> MMC_CAP_WAIT_WHILE_BUSY is supported or not.
>>>
>>> This does not make sense to me.  If you are sending a STOP command you
>>> should use the correct response type.  R1B should be OK here because the
>>> card should release the busy signal in any case except failure.
>>
>> For those hosts not supporting MMC_CAP_WAIT_WHILE_BUSY a R1B is
>> assumed to be treated same as an R1, which means there are no busy
>> detection handled in the host.
>
> That is not entirely true.  For hosts that do not set
> MMC_CAP_WAIT_WHILE_BUSY we don't know if they wait or not.  I imagine most
> do because it is more efficient, but the kernel has always been programmed
> to poll the status anyway so you can't tell from the code.

You are right, we can't know - unless we dive in into each host driver
and check.

Surely there could be more than omap_hsmmc and sdhci that support
this. Still I think we need to conclude on how to go forward with
MMC_CAP_WAIT_WHILE_BUSY, since at the moment it seems a bit of a mess.
Obviously we need to be careful to not break anything.

>
> MMC_CAP_WAIT_WHILE_BUSY was one of my inventions I am afraid.  If I recall
> correctly it was mainly due to the SLEEP command because you can't poll in
> that case and you don't want to delay the system from sleeping - if you are
> certain that the controller has waited for busy to de-assert (i.e.
> MMC_CAP_WAIT_WHILE_BUSY) then you can exit immediately.

I think MMC_CAP_WAIT_WHILE_BUSY was a needed feature, now we only have
to make it more mature. :-)

>
>>
>> mmc_blk_cmd_recovery() is the only caller of the send_stop() function.
>> Additionally it does not care about to handle busy detection with
>> CDM13 polling.
>>
>> Now, since most hosts don't support MMC_CAP_WAIT_WHILE_BUSY which
>> means there no busy detection done, I wanted to align to this
>> behaviour - no matter if the host can do HW busy detection or not.
>>
>> I am not saying this is how it must be done, just trying to provide
>> you with some more reasons to why I wanted to change.
>>
>> If we instead decide keep the R1B for send_stop(), we should implement
>> CMD 13 polling to meet the same behaviour for hosts not supporting
>> MMC_CAP_WAIT_WHILE_BUSY. In this scenario, we need to set a select a
>> busy timeout, do you have any suggestion of what would be a reasonable
>> value for it?
>
> It is hard to tell if waiting is ever going to help more than hinder, so I
> would not change this.

Fair enough, but certainly we should implement a CMD13 polling
mechanism - to align behaviour.

Are you then also indirectly suggesting that not specficing
"cmd.busy_timeout" should be interpreted by the host as "use whatever
timeout you want"?

Do note, there are another scenario, which also don't specify a busy
timeout, which is when we have used an open ended WRITE transmission
and using CMD12 to finalize it.
But, in this scenario we do polling with CMD13, also without a
timeout. So at least the behaviour are aligned here, but still no
timeout specified.

>
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Ulf Hansson
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> ---
>>>>  drivers/mmc/card/block.c |    2 +-
>>>>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/mmc/card/block.c b/drivers/mmc/card/block.c
>>>> index 87cd2b0..74169fa 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/mmc/card/block.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/mmc/card/block.c
>>>> @@ -728,7 +728,7 @@ static int send_stop(struct mmc_card *card, u32 *status)
>>>>       int err;
>>>>
>>>>       cmd.opcode = MMC_STOP_TRANSMISSION;
>>>> -     cmd.flags = MMC_RSP_SPI_R1B | MMC_RSP_R1B | MMC_CMD_AC;
>>>> +     cmd.flags = MMC_RSP_SPI_R1 | MMC_RSP_R1 | MMC_CMD_AC;
>>>>       err = mmc_wait_for_cmd(card->host, &cmd, 5);
>>>>       if (err == 0)
>>>>               *status = cmd.resp[0];
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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