Re: [PATCH] mmc: sdhci: don't limit discard timeout by data line timeout

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On Nov 27, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Vladimir Zapolskiy <vz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 11/27/13 10:21, Adrian Hunter wrote:
>> On 26/11/13 18:33, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote:
>>> On 11/26/13 11:04, Adrian Hunter wrote:
>>>> On 22/11/13 17:21, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote:
>>>>> On 22.11.2013 16:04, Adrian Hunter wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/11/13 15:50, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote:
>>>>>>> On 22.11.2013 14:04, Adrian Hunter wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 22/11/13 14:24, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 22.11.2013 12:38, Adrian Hunter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 21/11/13 17:07, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> JEDEC specification defines quite high erase timeout value for 300ms
>>>>>>>>>>> multiplied by erase group number, and SD Host Controller specification
>>>>>>>>>>> data line timeout may be much less, e.g. 2^13 / 52MHz ~ 160us.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>       From block layer and MMC perfromance perspective it is desirable
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> millions of erase groups are discarded at once, so there is no much
>>>>>>>>>>> sense to limit maximum erase timeout by data line timeout, if a
>>>>>>>>>>> controller handles correctly erase operation without indication of
>>>>>>>>>>> data line timeout.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Would you explain that some more.  Do you mean that:
>>>>>>>>>>        a) it does not have a timeout
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> JEDEC defines a timeout on erase/trim operations, also in
>>>>>>>>> drivers/mmc/core/core.c
>>>>>>>>> there is a reasonable enough 10 minutes limitation for discard
>>>>>>>>> operations.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>        b) it has a timeout which is less than the timeout specified
>>>>>>>>>> by the
>>>>>>>>>> standard but the operation nevertheless completes
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> SDHC data line timeout is enormously less than erase group timeout, and
>>>>>>>>> trivial testing shows that those two timeouts are independent, probably
>>>>>>>>> except some particular cases of controllers not known before commits
>>>>>>>>> 58d1246db3 and e056a1b5b.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> According to the currently implemented logic, mmc_do_erase() commonly is
>>>>>>>>> instructed to discard 1-2 erase groups at maximum, however it tends
>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>> capable to successfully discard millions of erase groups at once
>>>>>>>>> ignoring
>>>>>>>>> that SDHC data line timeout limitation.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You seem to be trying to say that the SDHCI spec. says that the host
>>>>>>>> controller does not timeout erase operations or uses a different timeout
>>>>>>>> than the one programmed in the "Timeout Control Register".  Where is
>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>> the SDHCI spec?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> According to the spec a host controller timeouts erase operations like any
>>>>>>> other R1B command.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So in your opinion, should there be SDHCI_QUIRK_BROKEN_TIMEOUT_VAL instead
>>>>>>> of the new quirk?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't understand how SDHCI_QUIRK_BROKEN_TIMEOUT_VAL would help.  It just
>>>>>> sets the timeout to maximum but max_discard_to is the maximum timeout.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here I meant to do something like:
>>>>> 
>>>>>      if (host->quirks&   SDHCI_QUIRK_BROKEN_TIMEOUT_VAL)
>>>>>          mmc->max_discard_to = 0;
>>>>> 
>>>>> Again I'm not sure that this applies well to all
>>>>> SDHCI_QUIRK_BROKEN_TIMEOUT_VAL
>>>>> controllers, therefore a new quirk might be better.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> As I understand it you don't want to limit the discard size, either because
>>>>>> your controller does not timeout, or because you are happy that the maximum
>>>>>> timeout is enough for your users and their use-cases.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If that is the case then the original patch just needs the quirk the other
>>>>>> way around. i.e.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       if (host->quirks2&    SDHCI_QUIRK2_NO_DISCARD_LIMIT)
>>>>>>           mmc->max_discard_to = 0;
>>>>>>       else
>>>>>>           mmc->max_discard_to = (1<<    27) / host->timeout_clk;
>>>>> 
>>>>> This suits me fine, thanks for review, and I'll resend a change based on
>>>>> this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also I'd like to pay your attention to (1<<   27) / host->timeout_clk part of
>>>>> calculation, following the spec it might be better to account the actual
>>>>> value of Data Timeout Counter, otherwise a controller may get unintentional
>>>>> Data Timeout Error pretty soon. Please correct me, if I'm mistaken here.
>>>> 
>>>> Not sure what you mean.  max_discard_to is the maximum timeout (in
>>>> milliseconds) that the host controller supports.  The intent is to limit
>>>> erase operations to ones that have a timeout that is less than or equal to
>>>> that.
>>> 
>>> That's clear. But it's not obvious why do you prefer (1<<  27) numerator
>>> instead
>>> of secure (1<<  13) or (1<<  (13 + sdhci_readl(host, SDHCI_TIMEOUT_CONTROL))).
>> 
>> The maximum value of "Data Timeout Counter Value" in "Timeout Control
>> Register" is 14 and the maximum timeout is therefore (1<<  27).
> 
> So, from this perspective I assume this is a potential theoretical maximum
> timeout for a controller, which may be 16384 times more than the maximum
> guaranteed timeout before getting a DAT timeout. Why is the theoretical
> maximum
> supposed to be used in calculations of a guaranteed discard operation
> timeout
> instead of promised DAT timeout by a controller?

cards data is not always truthful is what I have found.  The timeout is rare so setting a
timeout little longer is better then timing out a transaction because the card data is
not right.

> 
>>> 
>>>> Currently, the limit gets applied by the block layer before the mmc layer is
>>>> involved so there is no possibility to take the actual timeout into account.
>>>>   However if you have erase_group_def set, then it won't make any difference
>>>> i.e. the limit will be the same.
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Potentially the change may break some of the SDHCs on discard of mmc,
>>>>>>>>>>> and for backward compatibility a new quirk is introduced, which is NOT
>>>>>>>>>>> set by default.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It sounds to me that what you want to do is not standard so the quirk
>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>> be the other way around.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Please take a look at commits 58d1246db3 and e056a1b5b, I'd be glad, if
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> could elaborate to which "some host controllers" the quirk in my
>>>>>>>>> definition
>>>>>>>>> applies, I believe all other host controllers present at that time in
>>>>>>>>> drivers/mmc/host/* are capable to discard without introduced limitation.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "some host controllers" == SDHCI i.e. to all of the ones you are applying
>>>>>>>> the change.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Vladimir Zapolskiy<vladimir_zapolskiy@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> Reported-by: Ed Sutter<ed.sutter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Chris Ball<cjb@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Adrian Hunter<adrian.hunter@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>      drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.c  |    5 ++++-
>>>>>>>>>>>      include/linux/mmc/sdhci.h |    1 +
>>>>>>>>>>>      2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.c b/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.c
>>>>>>>>>>> index bd8a098..b1fdddb 100644
>>>>>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.c
>>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/mmc/host/sdhci.c
>>>>>>>>>>> @@ -2930,7 +2930,10 @@ int sdhci_add_host(struct sdhci_host *host)
>>>>>>>>>>>          if (host->quirks&      SDHCI_QUIRK_DATA_TIMEOUT_USES_SDCLK)
>>>>>>>>>>>              host->timeout_clk = mmc->f_max / 1000;
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -    mmc->max_discard_to = (1<<      27) / host->timeout_clk;
>>>>>>>>>>> +    if (host->quirks2&      SDHCI_QUIRK2_DATA_TIMEOUT_ON_DISCARD)
>>>>>>>>>>> +        mmc->max_discard_to = (1<<      27) / host->timeout_clk;
>>>>>>>>>>> +    else
>>>>>>>>>>> +        mmc->max_discard_to = 0;
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>          mmc->caps |= MMC_CAP_SDIO_IRQ | MMC_CAP_ERASE |
>>>>>>>>>>> MMC_CAP_CMD23;
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/mmc/sdhci.h b/include/linux/mmc/sdhci.h
>>>>>>>>>>> index 3e781b8..e7f6bd2 100644
>>>>>>>>>>> --- a/include/linux/mmc/sdhci.h
>>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/include/linux/mmc/sdhci.h
>>>>>>>>>>> @@ -98,6 +98,7 @@ struct sdhci_host {
>>>>>>>>>>>      #define SDHCI_QUIRK2_CARD_ON_NEEDS_BUS_ON        (1<<4)
>>>>>>>>>>>      /* Controller has a non-standard host control register */
>>>>>>>>>>>      #define SDHCI_QUIRK2_BROKEN_HOST_CONTROL        (1<<5)
>>>>>>>>>>> +#define SDHCI_QUIRK2_DATA_TIMEOUT_ON_DISCARD        (1<<6)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>          int irq;        /* Device IRQ */
>>>>>>>>>>>          void __iomem *ioaddr;    /* Mapped address */
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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