On Wed, 20 Apr 2011, Alan Stern wrote: > On Wed, 20 Apr 2011, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote: > > > Thanks to all for clarifications. Since everyone is convinced, that that > > idle function in mmc bus.c is appropriate, I restored it and managed to > > achieve my goals also without it by adjusting the platform runtime pm and > > power domain prototype support. > > > > But I still need those "cheating" calls to > > > > pm_runtime_put_noidle(&pdev->dev); > > and > > pm_runtime_get_noresume(&pdev->dev); > > > > in the sh_mmcif.c driver. If I use the patch as posted at > > > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.sh.devel/10724 > > > > but without those two calls, and load and unload the driver, while a card > > is plugged in, unloading the driver doesn't power down the interface, > > because the usage_count == 1 also after the kernel has soft-ejected the > > card > > You haven't explained why you want the interface to be powered down > when the driver is unloaded. Normally, unloading a driver is pretty > much the exact reverse of loading it -- if the interface wasn't powered > down before the driver was loaded originally then it shouldn't be > powered down after the driver is unloaded. The interface was powered down before loading. And yes, sorry, I actually meant probing and removing, which in case of platform devices is almost equivalent to driver loading and unloading, yes, you can also use bind / unbind to do the same. > Conversely, if the interface _was_ powered down before the driver was > loaded originally, then making unload the exact reverse of load will > naturally leave the interface powered down, with no need for any extra > "cheating" calls. Not quite, see below. > > mmc0: card 0001 removed > > > > With my put_noidle() / get_noresume() hack all cases of modprobe / rmmod, > > card insert / eject work correctly. > > Depending on the subsystem, those calls may not be "cheating" at all. > When a subsystem has to deal with a variety of device drivers, some of > which may not support runtime PM, a standard trick is for the subsystem > to increment the usage_count value before probing. Drivers that aren't > runtime-PM-aware will leave the usage_count alone and therefore the > device won't ever be runtime-suspended. Drivers that _are_ > runtime-PM-aware will know to decrement the usage_count in their probe > routine and increment it in their remove routine. > > However this involves calling pm_runtime_put_noidle() during probe and > pm_runtime_get_noresume() during remove -- not during module > initialization and module unloading. As I said above - I did mean probe() and remove(). Now, I have now traced down the cause of my problem. In dd.c::driver_probe_device(): pm_runtime_get_noresume(dev); pm_runtime_barrier(dev); ret = really_probe(dev, drv); pm_runtime_put_sync(dev); Which means, if originally usage_count = 0 disable_depth = 1 the first get_noresume() increments usage_count = 1 In probe() we do enable(), which decrements disable_depth = 0 and resume(), which poweres everything up. If we now return from probe(), put_sync() will power down and decrement usage_count = 0 which is ok for sh_mmcif.c. If there is no card in the slot, we keep interface powered down, card polling works also in powered down mode if there's a GPIO, or the MMC core will wake us up every time to check for a new card. Next, let's say, a card has been inserted, and we rmmod the driver. dd.c::__device_release_driver() does pm_runtime_get_noresume(dev); pm_runtime_barrier(dev); .remove(); pm_runtime_put_sync(dev); the first get_noresume() increments usage_count = 1 Then if we go the "exact inverse" route, we do suspend(), which does nothing, because usage_count > 0, then we do disable(), which increments disable_depth = 1 After returning from .remove() pm_runtime_put_sync() is executed, but also it does nothing, because disable_depth > 0. The interface stays powered on. So, as you see, the problem is on the .remove() path. I work around it by doing pm_runtime_put_sync(&pdev->dev); pm_runtime_disable(&pdev->dev); pm_runtime_get_noresume(&pdev->dev); in the driver. This way the first call decrements usage_count = 0 and powers down, the second one increments disable_depth = 1 the third one usage_count = 1 Then, back in dd.c again usage_count = 0 and all is happy:-) But the above triplet looks kinda ugly to me. Is this really how it is supposed to work?... Thanks Guennadi --- Guennadi Liakhovetski, Ph.D. Freelance Open-Source Software Developer http://www.open-technology.de/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-mmc" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html