RE: [PATCH v1 1/3]mmc: implemented runtime pm for mmc host

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Chris,
(Sorry for top posting)
Seems we have a intel intern disagreement.

Could we have maintainer opinion on this ?

Regards,
Pierre

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dong, Chuanxiao
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:04 AM
> To: Tardy, Pierre; linux-mmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; cjb@xxxxxxxxxx; ohad@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [PATCH v1 1/3]mmc: implemented runtime pm for mmc host
> 
> Hi Pierre,
> I think the runtime pm should not have any dependency with clock gating. Even the MMC driver won't
> clock gate SD/MMC card, host controller should still enter runtime suspend state, right?
> So if auto suspended delay could be changed by user, then we can use pm_suspend_schedule to specify
> the latency which is longer than 8 clock cycle.
> 
> Thanks
> Chuanxiao
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tardy, Pierre
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 12:39 AM
> > To: Dong, Chuanxiao; linux-mmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Cc: linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; cjb@xxxxxxxxxx; ohad@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [PATCH v1 1/3]mmc: implemented runtime pm for mmc host
> >
> > > > I'm also worried about this patch not taking in account the 8 clock cycles before
> > > > shutting down the clock, contrary to the clock gating fw.
> > > > If you power down hc, you will also gate the clock. So the sdio protocol might not
> > be
> > > > strictly followed.
> > > As mmc spec said, 8 clock cycles is needed. That is right.
> > > But I think if we have set the auto suspended delay for host, runtime pm core
> > could make sure host to
> > > wait at least the auto suspended delay before shutting down the power of the
> > device. So if the auto
> > > suspended delay is longer than 8 clock cycles, the mmc protocol can be followed,
> > right?
> > I disagree. You cannot enforce this. It depends on clock speed, that can vary with
> > sdio cards.
> > User can change the autosuspend delay to whatever he wants, it should just
> > change performance, but not functionality.
> >
> > Why don't you just take my clock gating version?
> > Its working well, I'm using this for 2 weeks, and follow the linux-mmc latest
> > improvement.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pierre
> >

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