On Tue 2015-09-22 15:35:13, Tejun Heo wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 03:03:48PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote: > > /** > > + * try_to_grab_pending_kthread_work - steal kthread work item from worklist, > > + * and disable irq > > + * @work: work item to steal > > + * @is_dwork: @work is a delayed_work > > + * @flags: place to store irq state > > + * > > + * Try to grab PENDING bit of @work. This function can handle @work in any > > + * stable state - idle, on timer or on worklist. > > + * > > + * Return: > > + * 1 if @work was pending and we successfully stole PENDING > > + * 0 if @work was idle and we claimed PENDING > > + * -EAGAIN if PENDING couldn't be grabbed at the moment, safe to busy-retry > > + * -ENOENT if someone else is canceling @work, this state may persist > > + * for arbitrarily long > > + * > > + * Note: > > + * On >= 0 return, the caller owns @work's PENDING bit. To avoid getting > > + * interrupted while holding PENDING and @work off queue, irq must be > > + * disabled on return. This, combined with delayed_work->timer being > > + * irqsafe, ensures that we return -EAGAIN for finite short period of time. > > + * > > + * On successful return, >= 0, irq is disabled and the caller is > > + * responsible for releasing it using local_irq_restore(*@flags). > > + * > > + * This function is safe to call from any context including IRQ handler. > > + */ > > Ugh... I think this is way too much for kthread_worker. Workqueue is > as complex as it is partly for historical reasons and partly because > it's used so widely and heavily. kthread_worker is always guaranteed > to have a single worker and in most cases maybe several work items. > There's no reason to bring this level of complexity onto it. > Providing simliar semantics is fine but it should be possible to do > this in a lot simpler way if the requirements on space and concurrency > is this much lower. > > e.g. always embed timer_list in a work item and use per-worker > spinlock to synchronize access to both the work item and timer and use > per-work-item mutex to synchronize multiple cancelers. Let's please > keep it simple. I thought about it a lot and I do not see a way how to make it easier using the locks. I guess that you are primary interested into the two rather complicated things: 1) PENDING state plus -EAGAIN/busy loop cycle --------------------------------------------- IMHO, we want to use the timer because it is an elegant solution. Then we must release the lock when the timer is running. The lock must be taken by the timer->function(). And there is a small window when the timer is not longer pending but timer->function is not running: CPU0 CPU1 run_timer_softirq() __run_timers() detach_expired_timer() detach_timer() #clear_pending try_to_grab_pending_kthread_work() del_timer() # fails because not pending test_and_set_bit(KTHREAD_WORK_PENDING_BIT) # fails because already set if (!list_empty(&work->node)) # fails because still not queued !!! problematic window !!! call_timer_fn() queue_kthraed_work() 2) CANCEL state plus custom waitqueue ------------------------------------- cancel_kthread_work_sync() has to wait for the running work. It might take quite some time. Therefore we could not block others by a spinlock. Also others could not wait for the spin lock in a busy wait. IMHO, the proposed and rather complex solutions are needed in both cases. Or did I miss a possible trick, please? Best Regards, Petr -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx"> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>