On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 01:40:42PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote: > * Johannes Weiner | 2015-06-01 15:00:47 [-0400]: > > >Andrew's suggestion makes sense, we can probably just delete the check > >as long as we keep the comment. > > that comment didn't get out attention - the BUG_ON() did because the > latter helped to spot a bug in -RT. Also if the comment says that the > preemption is expected to be disabled then I still miss the important > piece of information: WHY. You explained it in an earlier email that > this has something to do with the per CPU variables which are modified. > This piece of information is important. In future updates of the code I > would appreciate BUG_ON() statements like this to catch things I didn't > see originally. > > >That being said, I think it's a little weird that this doesn't work: > > > >spin_lock_irq() > >BUG_ON(!irqs_disabled()) > >spin_unlock_irq() > > This depends on the point of view. You expect interrupts to be disabled > while taking a lock. This is not how the function is defined. > The function ensures that the lock can be taken from process context while > it may also be taken by another caller from interrupt context. The fact > that it disables interrupts on vanilla to achieve its goal is an > implementation detail. Same goes for spin_lock_bh() btw. Based on this > semantic it works on vanilla and -RT. It does not disable interrupts on > -RT because there is no need for it: the interrupt handler runs in thread > context. The function delivers what it is expected to deliver from API > point of view: "take the lock from process context which can also be > taken in interrupt context". Uhm, that's really distorting reality to fit your requirements. This helper has been defined to mean local_irq_disable() + spin_lock() for ages, it's been documented in books on Linux programming. And people expect it to prevent interrupt handlers from executing, which it does. But more importantly, people expect irqs_disabled() to mean that as well. Check the callsites. Except for maybe in the IRQ code itself, every single caller using irqs_disabled() cares exclusively about the serialization against interrupt handlers. > >I'd expect that if you change the meaning of spin_lock_irq() from > >"mask hardware interrupts" to "disable preemption by tophalf", you > >would update the irqs_disabled() macro to match. Most people using > >this check probably don't care about the hardware state, only that > >they don't get preempted by an interfering interrupt handler, no? > > Most people that use irqs_disabled() or preempt_disabled() implement > some kind locking which is not documented. It is either related to CPU > features (which are per-CPU) or protect per-CPU variables (sometimes > even global ones). It often ends with something that they rely on how > the vanilla API works. > For instance: preempt_disable() is used to for locking in all callers > but one and this is because that one caller takes a spin_lock() (a > totally unrelated lock) but since spin_lock() also performs > preempt_disable() the author optimizes the "needed" preempt_disable() > invocation away. That's different, and spin_lock() doesn't imply preemption-disabling on -rt. But spin_lock_irq() prevents interrupt handlers from running, even on -rt. And people expect irqs_disabled() to test this fact. > diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c > --- a/mm/memcontrol.c > +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c > @@ -5822,6 +5822,7 @@ void mem_cgroup_swapout(struct page *page, swp_entry_t entry) > { > struct mem_cgroup *memcg; > unsigned short oldid; > + unsigned long flags; > > VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(PageLRU(page), page); > VM_BUG_ON_PAGE(page_count(page), page); > @@ -5844,11 +5845,10 @@ void mem_cgroup_swapout(struct page *page, swp_entry_t entry) > if (!mem_cgroup_is_root(memcg)) > page_counter_uncharge(&memcg->memory, 1); > > - /* XXX: caller holds IRQ-safe mapping->tree_lock */ > - VM_BUG_ON(!irqs_disabled()); > - > + local_lock_irqsave(event_lock, flags); > mem_cgroup_charge_statistics(memcg, page, -1); > memcg_check_events(memcg, page); > + local_unlock_irqrestore(event_lock, flags); > } > > /** > > The only downside for the non-RT version is that local_lock_irqsave() > expands to local_irq_save() (on non-RT) which disables IRQs which are > already disabled - a minor issue if at all. > > Johannes, would you mind using local_lock_irqsave() if it would be > available in vanilla? As you see it documents what is locked :) WTF is event_lock? This is even more obscure than anything else we had before. Seriously, just fix irqs_disabled() to mean "interrupt handlers can't run", which is the expectation in pretty much all callsites that currently use it, except for maybe irq code itself. Use raw_irqs_disabled() or something for the three callers that care about the actual hardware state. -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx"> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>