Hello Sergey,
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 01:03:04PM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (05/22/15 22:14), Minchan Kim wrote:
> > > > >second, there is not much value in exposing zcomp internals,
> > > > >especially when the result is just another line in dmesg output.
> > > >
> > > > From the other hand, the only valid values that can be written are
> > > > in 'comp_algorithm'.
> > > > So when writing other one, returning -EINVAL seems to be reasonable.
> > > > The user would get immediately information that he can't do that,
> > > > now the information can be very deferred in time.
> > >
> > > it's not.
> > > the error message appears in syslog right before we return -EINVAL
> > > back to user.
> >
> > Although Marcin's description is rather misleading, I like the patch.
> > Every admin doesn't watch dmesg output. Even people could change loglevel
> > simply so KERN_INFO would be void in that case.
>
> there is no -EUNSPPORTEDCOMPRESSIONALGORITHM errno that we can return
> back to userspace and expect it [userspace] to magically transform it
> into a meaningful error message; users must check syslog/dmesg. that's
> the way it is.
>
> # echo LZ4 > /sys/block/zram0/comp_algorithm
> # -bash: echo: write error: Device or resource busy
The problem is that user cannot notice the fail until he try to
set disksize. It's not straightforward as interface.
>
> - hm.... why?
> - well, that's why:
> dmesg
> [ 249.745335] zram: Can't change algorithm for initialized device
>
>
> > Instant error propagation is more strighforward for user point of view
> > rather than delaying with depending on another event.
>
> I'd rather just add two lines of code, w/o making zcomp internals visible.
>
> it seems that we are trying to solve a problem that does not really
> exist. I think what we really need to do is to rewrite zram documentation
> and to propose zramctl usage as a recommended way of managing zram devices.
Zramctl is useful for people to handle zram's inteface consistenly but
it couldn't be a justification for awkard error propagation which depends
another event(ie, disksize setting).
> zramctl does not do `typo' errors. if somebody wants to configure zram
> manually, then he simply must check syslog. it's simple.
If any action fails instanly, it makes sense to check it with syslog.
But the problem is echo lz5 > /sys/block/zram0/comp_algorithm didn't
emit any error message but could notice it when we set disksize.
It's not good.
Of course, if we need a lot code churn to fix it, I will think it over
seriously but we could fix it simply. Why not?
Frankly speaking, I didn't use zramctl ever because I didn't know when it
was merged into util-linux unforunately and my distro's util-linux seems
to not include it.
And so many products have used zram in my company are too old to use
recent util-linux. They are reluctant to update their util-linux
for just zramctl.
Time goes by, I belive zramctl would be standard way to use zram but
it couldn't cover 100% for the world usecases.
So, my point is that we should make the interface sane without dependency
of zramctl.
>
> ---
>
> drivers/block/zram/zcomp.c | 5 +++++
> 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/block/zram/zcomp.c b/drivers/block/zram/zcomp.c
> index a1a8b8e..d96da53 100644
> --- a/drivers/block/zram/zcomp.c
> +++ b/drivers/block/zram/zcomp.c
> @@ -54,11 +54,16 @@ static struct zcomp_backend *backends[] = {
> static struct zcomp_backend *find_backend(const char *compress)
> {
> int i = 0;
> +
> while (backends[i]) {
> if (sysfs_streq(compress, backends[i]->name))
> break;
> i++;
> }
> +
> + if (!backends[i])
> + pr_err("Error: unknown compression algorithm: %s\n",
> + compress);
> return backends[i];
> }
>
>
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Minchan Kim
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