On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On 11/19/2014 03:36 PM, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On 11/19/2014 12:02 AM, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote: >>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 1:15 AM, Konstantin Khlebnikov <koct9i@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Andrew Morton >>>>> <akpm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:41:57 -0500 Rik van Riel <riel@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> > Because of the serial forking there does indeed end up being an >>>>>>> > infinite number of vmas. The initial vma can never be deleted >>>>>>> > (even though the initial parent process has long since terminated) >>>>>>> > because the initial vma is referenced by the children. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a finite number of VMAs, but an infite number of >>>>>>> anon_vmas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Subtle, yet deadly... >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, we clearly have the data structures screwed up. I've forgotten >>>>>> enough about this code for me to be unable to work out what the fixed >>>>>> up data structures would look like :( But surely there is some proper >>>>>> solution here. Help? >>>>> >>>>> Not sure if it's right but probably we could reuse on fork an old anon_vma >>>>> from the chain if it's already lost all vmas which points to it. >>>>> For endlessly forking exploit this should work mostly like proposed patch >>>>> which stops branching after some depth but without magic constant. >>>> >>>> Something like this. I leave proper comment for tomorrow. >>> >>> Hmm I'm not sure that will work as it is. If I understand it correctly, your >>> patch can detect if the parent's anon_vma has no own references at the fork() >>> time. But at the fork time, the parent is still alive, it only exits after the >>> fork, right? So I guess it still has own references and the child will still >>> allocate its new anon_vma, and the problem is not solved. >> >> But it could reuse anon_vma from grandparent or older. >> Count of anon_vmas in chain will be limited with count of alive processes. > > Ah I missed that it can reuse older anon_vma, sorry. > >> I think it's better to describe this in terms of sets of anon_vma >> instead hierarchy: >> at clone vma inherits pages from parent together with set of anon_vma >> which they belong. >> For new pages it might allocate new anon_vma or reuse existing. After >> my patch vma >> will try to reuse anon_vma from that set which has no vmas which points to it. >> As a result there will be no parent-child relation between anon_vma and >> multiple pages might have equal (anon_vma, index) pair but I see no >> problems here. > > Hmm I wonder if root anon_vma should be excluded from this reusal. For > performance reasons, exclusive pages go to non-root anon_vma (see > __page_set_anon_rmap()) and reusing root anon_vma would change this. This is simple, in my patch this can be reached by bumping its nr_vmas by one and it'll never be reused. > Also from reading http://lwn.net/Articles/383162/ I understand that correctness > also depends on the hierarchy and I wonder if there's a danger of reintroducing > a bug like the one described there. If I remember right that was fixed by linking non-exclusively mapped pages to root anon_vma instead of anon_vma from vma where fault has happened. After my patch this still works. Topology hierarchy actually isn't used. Here just one selected "root' anon_vma which dies last. That's all. > > Vlastimil > >>> >>> So maybe we could detect that the own references dropped to zero when the parent >>> does exit, and then change mapping of all relevant pages to the root anon_vma, >>> destroy avc's of children and the anon_vma itself. But that sounds quite >>> heavyweight :/ >>> >>> Vlastimil >>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in >> the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, >> see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . >> Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx";> email@xxxxxxxxx </a> >> > -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx";> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>