Re: [PATCH v2 00/25] AMDKFD kernel driver

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Am 21.07.2014 09:01, schrieb Daniel Vetter:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 01:46:53PM -0400, Jerome Glisse wrote:
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 04:57:25PM +0300, Oded Gabbay wrote:
Forgot to cc mailing list on cover letter. Sorry.

As a continuation to the existing discussion, here is a v2 patch series
restructured with a cleaner history and no totally-different-early-versions
of the code.

Instead of 83 patches, there are now a total of 25 patches, where 5 of them
are modifications to radeon driver and 18 of them include only amdkfd code.
There is no code going away or even modified between patches, only added.

The driver was renamed from radeon_kfd to amdkfd and moved to reside under
drm/radeon/amdkfd. This move was done to emphasize the fact that this driver
is an AMD-only driver at this point. Having said that, we do foresee a
generic hsa framework being implemented in the future and in that case, we
will adjust amdkfd to work within that framework.

As the amdkfd driver should support multiple AMD gfx drivers, we want to
keep it as a seperate driver from radeon. Therefore, the amdkfd code is
contained in its own folder. The amdkfd folder was put under the radeon
folder because the only AMD gfx driver in the Linux kernel at this point
is the radeon driver. Having said that, we will probably need to move it
(maybe to be directly under drm) after we integrate with additional AMD gfx
drivers.

For people who like to review using git, the v2 patch set is located at:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~gabbayo/linux/log/?h=kfd-next-3.17-v2

Written by Oded Gabbayh <oded.gabbay@xxxxxxx>
So quick comments before i finish going over all patches. There is many
things that need more documentation espacialy as of right now there is
no userspace i can go look at.

There few show stopper, biggest one is gpu memory pinning this is a big
no, that would need serious arguments for any hope of convincing me on
that side.

It might be better to add a drivers/gpu/drm/amd directory and add common
stuff there.

Given that this is not intended to be final HSA api AFAICT then i would
say this far better to avoid the whole kfd module and add ioctl to radeon.
This would avoid crazy communication btw radeon and kfd.

The whole aperture business needs some serious explanation. Especialy as
you want to use userspace address there is nothing to prevent userspace
program from allocating things at address you reserve for lds, scratch,
... only sane way would be to move those lds, scratch inside the virtual
address reserved for kernel (see kernel memory map).

The whole business of locking performance counter for exclusive per process
access is a big NO. Which leads me to the questionable usefullness of user
space command ring. I only see issues with that. First and foremost i would
need to see solid figures that kernel ioctl or syscall has a higher an
overhead that is measurable in any meaning full way against a simple
function call. I know the userspace command ring is a big marketing features
that please ignorant userspace programmer. But really this only brings issues
and for absolutely not upside afaict.

So i would rather see a very simple ioctl that write the doorbell and might
do more than that in case of ring/queue overcommit where it would first have
to wait for a free ring/queue to schedule stuff. This would also allow sane
implementation of things like performance counter that could be acquire by
kernel for duration of a job submitted by userspace. While still not optimal
this would be better that userspace locking.
Quick aside and mostly off the record: In i915 we plan to have the first
implementation exactly as Jerome suggests here:
- New flag at context creationg for svm/seamless-gpgpu contexts.
- New ioctl in i915 for submitting stuff to the hw (through doorbell or
   whatever else we want to do). The ring in the ctx would be under the
   kernel's control.

And looking at the existing Radeon code, that's exactly what we are already doing with the compute queues on CIK as well. We just use the existing command submission interface, cause when you use an IOCTL anyway it's not beneficial any more to do all the complex scheduling and other stuff directly on the hardware.

What's mostly missing in the existing module is proper support for accessing the CPU address space through IOMMUv2.

Christian.

Of course there's lots of GEM stuff we don't need at all for such
contexts, but there's still lots of shared code. Imo creating a 2nd driver
has too much interface surface and so is a maintainence hell.

And the ioctl submission gives us flexibility in case the hw doesn't quite
live up to promise (e.g. scheduling, cmd parsing, ...).
-Daniel

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