Hello Peter, On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 04:59:40PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > On 10/07/2013 04:54 PM, John Stultz wrote: > >>> > >> And wouldn't this apply to MADV_DONTNEED just as well? Perhaps what we > >> should do is an enhanced madvise() call? > > Well, I think MADV_DONTNEED doesn't *have* do to anything at all. Its > > advisory after all. So it may immediately wipe out any data, but it may not. > > > > Those advisory semantics work fine w/ VRANGE_VOLATILE. However, > > VRANGE_NONVOLATILE is not quite advisory, its telling the system that it > > requires the memory at the specified range to not be volatile, and we > > need to correctly inform userland how much was changed and if any of the > > memory we did change to non-volatile was purged since being set volatile. > > > > In that way it is sort of different from madvise. Some sort of an > > madvise2 could be done, but then the extra purge state argument would be > > oddly defined for any other mode. > > > > Is your main concern here just wanting to have a zero-fill mode with > > volatile ranges? Or do you really want to squeeze this in to the madvise > > call interface? > > The point is that MADV_DONTNEED is very similar in that sense, > especially if allowed to be lazy. It makes a lot of sense to permit > both scrubbing modes orthogonally. > > The point you're making has to do with withdrawal of permission to flush > on demand, which is a result of having the lazy mode (ongoing > permission) and having to be able to withdraw such permission. I'm sorry I could not understand what you wanted to say. Could you elaborate a bit? Thanks. > > -0hpa > > > -- > To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in > the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, > see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . > Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx";> email@xxxxxxxxx </a> -- Kind regards, Minchan Kim -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx";> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>