On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 01:05:56PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Linus Torvalds <torvalds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > [...] > > > > Ok, so I don't know all the issues, and in many ways I don't even really > > care. You could do it other ways, I don't think this is a big deal. The > > part I hate is the runtime hook into the core MM page allocation code, > > so I'm just throwing out any random thing that comes to my mind that > > could be used to avoid that part. > > So, my hope was that it's possible to have a single, simple, zero-cost > runtime check [zero cost for already initialized pages], because it can be > merged into already existing page flag mask checks present here and > executed for every freshly allocated page: > > static inline int check_new_page(struct page *page) > { > if (unlikely(page_mapcount(page) | > (page->mapping != NULL) | > (atomic_read(&page->_count) != 0) | > (page->flags & PAGE_FLAGS_CHECK_AT_PREP) | > (mem_cgroup_bad_page_check(page)))) { > bad_page(page); > return 1; > } > return 0; > } > > We already run this for every new page allocated and the initialization > check could hide in PAGE_FLAGS_CHECK_AT_PREP in a zero-cost fashion. > > I'd not do any of the ensure_page_is_initialized() or > __expand_page_initialization() complications in this patch-set - each page > head represents itself and gets iterated when check_new_page() is done. > > During regular bootup we'd initialize like before, except we don't set up > the page heads but memset() them to zero. With each page head 32 bytes > this would mean 8 GB of page head memory to clear per 1 TB - with 16 TB > that's 128 GB to clear - that ought to be possible to do rather quickly, > perhaps with some smart SMP cross-call approach that makes sure that each > memset is done in a node-local fashion. [*] > > Such an approach should IMO be far smaller and less invasive than the > patches presented so far: it should be below 100 lines or so. > > I don't know why there's such a big difference between the theory I > outlined and the invasive patch-set implemented so far in practice, > perhaps I'm missing some complication. I was trying to probe that > difference, before giving up on the idea and punting back to the async > hotplug-ish approach which would obviously work well too. > The reason, which I failed to mention, is once we pull off a page the lru in either __rmqueue_fallback or __rmqueue_smallest the first thing we do with it is expand() or sometimes move_freepages(). These then trip over some BUG_ON and VM_BUG_ON. Those BUG_ONs are what keep causing me to delve into the ensure/expand foolishness. Nate -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx"> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>