On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 08:57:03AM -0700, Tejun Heo wrote: > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 05:19:08PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote: > > We can try to be clever during the outside pressure and prefer > > reclaiming over soft limit groups first. Which we used to do and will > > do after rework as well. As a side effect of that a properly designed > > hierachy with opt-in soft limited groups can actually accomplish some > > isolation is a nice side effect but no _guarantee_. > > Okay, so it *is* a soft limit. Good. If so, a subtree going over the > limit of course forces reclaim on its children even though their > individual configs aren't over limit. It's exactly the same as > hardlimit. There doesn't need to be any difference and there's > nothing questionable or interesting about it. > > Also, then, a cgroup which has been configured explicitly shouldn't be ^ not > disadvantaged compared to a cgroup with a limit configured. ie. the > current behavior of giving maximum to the knob on creation is the > correct one. The knob should create *extra* pressure. It shouldn't > lessen the pressure. When populated weith other cgroups with limits > configured, it would change the relative pressure felt by each but in > general it's a limiting mechanism not an isolation one. I think the > bulk of confusion is coming from this, so please make that abundantly > clear. > > And, if people want a mechanism for isolation / lessening of pressure, > which looks like a valid use case to me, add another knob for that > which is prioritized under both hard and soft limits. That is the > only sensible way to do it. > > Alright, no complaint anymore. Thanks. > > -- > tejun -- tejun -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx"> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>