On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 11:05:05AM +0900, Joonsoo Kim wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 11:29:31AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 09:55:47AM +0900, Joonsoo Kim wrote: > > > lowmemkiller makes spare memory via killing a task. > > > > > > Below is code from lowmem_shrink() in lowmemorykiller.c > > > > > > for (i = 0; i < array_size; i++) { > > > if (other_free < lowmem_minfree[i] && > > > other_file < lowmem_minfree[i]) { > > > min_score_adj = lowmem_adj[i]; > > > break; > > > } > > > } > > > > I don't think you understand what the current lowmemkiller shrinker > > hackery actually does. > > > > rem = global_page_state(NR_ACTIVE_ANON) + > > global_page_state(NR_ACTIVE_FILE) + > > global_page_state(NR_INACTIVE_ANON) + > > global_page_state(NR_INACTIVE_FILE); > > if (sc->nr_to_scan <= 0 || min_score_adj == OOM_SCORE_ADJ_MAX + 1) { > > lowmem_print(5, "lowmem_shrink %lu, %x, return %d\n", > > sc->nr_to_scan, sc->gfp_mask, rem); > > return rem; > > } > > > > So, when nr_to_scan == 0 (i.e. the count phase), the shrinker is > > going to return a count of active/inactive pages in the cache. That > > is almost always going to be non-zero, and almost always be > 1000 > > because of the minimum working set needed to run the system. > > Even after applying the seek count adjustment, total_scan is almost > > always going to be larger than the shrinker default batch size of > > 128, and that means this shrinker will almost always run at least > > once per shrink_slab() call. > > I don't think so. > Yes, lowmem_shrink() return number of (in)active lru pages > when nr_to_scan is 0. And in shrink_slab(), we divide it by lru_pages. > lru_pages can vary where shrink_slab() is called, anyway, perhaps this > logic makes total_scan below 128. "perhaps" There is no "perhaps" here - there is *zero* guarantee of the behaviour you are claiming the lowmem killer shrinker is dependent on with the existing shrinker infrastructure. So, lets say we have: nr_pages_scanned = 1000 lru_pages = 100,000 Your shrinker is going to return 100,000 when nr_to_scan = 0. So, we have: batch_size = SHRINK_BATCH = 128 max_pass= 100,000 total_scan = shrinker->nr_in_batch = 0 delta = 4 * 1000 / 32 = 128 delta = 128 * 100,000 = 12,800,000 delta = 12,800,000 / 100,001 = 127 total_scan += delta = 127 Assuming the LRU pages count does not change(*), nr_pages_scanned is irrelevant and delta always comes in 1 count below the batch size, and the shrinker is not called. The remainder is then: shrinker->nr_in_batch += total_scan = 127 (*) the lru page count will change, because reclaim and shrinkers run concurrently, and so we can't even make a simple contrived case where delta is consistently < batch_size here. Anyway, the next time the shrinker is entered, we start with: total_scan = shrinker->nr_in_batch = 127 ..... total_scan += delta = 254 <shrink once, total scan -= batch_size = 126> shrinker->nr_in_batch += total_scan = 126 And so on for all the subsequent shrink_slab calls.... IOWs, this algorithm effectively causes the shrinker to be called 127 times out of 128 in this arbitrary scenario. It does not behave as you are assuming it to, and as such any code based on those assumptions is broken.... Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Chinner david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx"> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>