On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 08:56:08AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote: > [...] The my point is that you have a plan to support? Why I have a > question is that you said your goal is to replace lowmemory killer In short: yes, of course, if the non-memcg interface will be in demand. > but android don't have enabled CONFIG_MEMCG as you know well > so they should enable it for using just notifier? or they need another hack to > connect notifier to global thing? A hack is not an option for me. :-) My final goal is to switch Android to use the notifier without need for hacks/external patches or drivers/staging. But my current goal is to make the most generic case work, and do this in the most correct way. That is, vmpressure + MEMCG. Once I accomplish this, I can then think of any niche needs (such as Android). There will be two possibilities for Android: 1. Obviously, turn on CONFIG_MEMCG. We need to measure its effect on real devices, and see if it makes sense. (Plus, maybe there are other uses for MEMCG on Android?) or 2. Implement /sys/fs/cgroups/memory/memory.pressure_level interface without MEMCG. Doing this will be really easy as we'll already have vmpressure() core, and Android has CROUPS=y. But I do expect some discussion like 'why don't you fix memcg instead?'. We'll have to answer this question by looking back at '1.' Also note that cgroups vmpressure notifiers were tried by QEMU folks, and it seemed to be useful: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2012-12/msg02821.html So, nowadays it is not only about Android. Some time ago I also got an email from Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda, who suggested to use vmpressure stuff with 'memcached' (but I didn't find time to actually try it, so far. :( Thanks for the email, btw!). So it is useful with or without MEMCG, and if we will really need to support vmpressure without MEMCG, I will have to implement the support in addition to MEMCG case, yes. Thanks, Anton -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx";> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>