Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm: Add ability to monitor task's memory changes

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On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 16:24 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:17:08 -0600
> Matt Mackall <mpm@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 15:21 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 09:15:10 +0400
> > > Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Two alternatives come to mind:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1)  Use /proc/pid/pagemap (Documentation/vm/pagemap.txt) in some
> > > > >     fashion to determine which pages have been touched.
> > 
> > [momentarily coming out of kernel retirement for old man rant]
> > 
> > This is a popular interface anti-pattern.
> > 
> > You shouldn't use an interface that gives you huge amount of STATE to
> > detect small amounts of CHANGE via manual differentiation.
> 
> I'm not sure that's what checkpoint-restart will be doing.  If we want
> to determine "which pages have been touched since the last checkpoint
> ten minutes ago" then that set of touched pages *is* state.  And it's
> not "small"!

Yeah, there is definitely a middle-ground here between "I want
high-frequency updates" and "I want to see the whole picture". 
The filesystem analogy is backups: we don't have any good way to say
"find me all files changed since yesterday" short of "find all files".
The closest thing is explicit snapshotting.

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