Re: zram OOM behavior

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On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Minchan Kim <minchan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 06:06:56PM -0700, Luigi Semenzato wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Minchan Kim <minchan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Hi Luigi,
>> >
>> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:12:02PM -0700, Luigi Semenzato wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:41 PM, David Rientjes <rientjes@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> > On Mon, 29 Oct 2012, Luigi Semenzato wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> However, now there is something that worries me more.  The trace of
>> >> >> the thread with TIF_MEMDIE set shows that it has executed most of
>> >> >> do_exit() and appears to be waiting to be reaped.  From my reading of
>> >> >> the code, this implies that task->exit_state should be non-zero, which
>> >> >> means that select_bad_process should have skipped that thread, which
>> >> >> means that we cannot be in the deadlock situation, and my experiments
>> >> >> are not consistent.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Yeah, this is what I was referring to earlier, select_bad_process() will
>> >> > not consider the thread for which you posted a stack trace for oom kill,
>> >> > so it's not deferring because of it.  There are either other thread(s)
>> >> > that have been oom killed and have not yet release their memory or the oom
>> >> > killer is never being called.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.  I now have better information on what's happening.
>> >>
>> >> The "culprit" is not the OOM-killed process (the one with TIF_MEMDIE
>> >> set).  It's another process that's exiting for some other reason.
>> >>
>> >> select_bad_process() checks for thread->exit_state at the beginning,
>> >> and skips processes that are exiting.  But later it checks for
>> >> p->flags & PF_EXITING, and can return -1 in that case (and it does for
>> >> me).
>> >>
>> >> It turns out that do_exit() does a lot of things between setting the
>> >> thread->flags PF_EXITING bit (in exit_signals()) and setting
>> >> thread->exit_state to non-zero (in exit_notify()).  Some of those
>> >> things apparently need memory.  I caught one process responsible for
>> >> the PTR_ERR(-1) while it was doing this:
>> >>
>> >> [  191.859358] VC manager      R running      0  2388   1108 0x00000104
>> >> [  191.859377] err_ptr_count = 45623
>> >> [  191.859384]  e0611b1c 00200086 f5608000 815ecd20 815ecd20 a0a9ebc3
>> >> 0000002c f67cfd20
>> >> [  191.859407]  f430a060 81191c34 e0611aec 81196d79 4168ef20 00000001
>> >> e1302400 e130264c
>> >> [  191.859428]  e1302400 e0611af4 813b71d5 e0611b00 810b42f1 e1302400
>> >> e0611b0c 810b430e
>> >> [  191.859450] Call Trace:
>> >> [  191.859465]  [<81191c34>] ? __delay+0xe/0x10
>> >> [  191.859478]  [<81196d79>] ? do_raw_spin_lock+0xa2/0xf3
>> >> [  191.859491]  [<813b71d5>] ? _raw_spin_unlock+0xd/0xf
>> >> [  191.859504]  [<810b42f1>] ? put_super+0x26/0x29
>> >> [  191.859515]  [<810b430e>] ? drop_super+0x1a/0x1d
>> >> [  191.859527]  [<8104512d>] __cond_resched+0x1b/0x2b
>> >> [  191.859537]  [<813b67a7>] _cond_resched+0x18/0x21
>> >> [  191.859549]  [<81093940>] shrink_slab+0x224/0x22f
>> >> [  191.859562]  [<81095a96>] try_to_free_pages+0x1b7/0x2e6
>> >> [  191.859574]  [<8108df2a>] __alloc_pages_nodemask+0x40a/0x61f
>> >> [  191.859588]  [<810a9dbe>] read_swap_cache_async+0x4a/0xcf
>> >> [  191.859600]  [<810a9ea4>] swapin_readahead+0x61/0x8d
>> >> [  191.859612]  [<8109fff4>] handle_pte_fault+0x310/0x5fb
>> >> [  191.859624]  [<810a0420>] handle_mm_fault+0xae/0xbd
>> >> [  191.859637]  [<8101d0f9>] do_page_fault+0x265/0x284
>> >> [  191.859648]  [<8104aa17>] ? dequeue_entity+0x236/0x252
>> >> [  191.859660]  [<8101ce94>] ? vmalloc_sync_all+0xa/0xa
>> >> [  191.859672]  [<813b7887>] error_code+0x67/0x6c
>> >> [  191.859683]  [<81191d21>] ? __get_user_4+0x11/0x17
>> >> [  191.859695]  [<81059f28>] ? exit_robust_list+0x30/0x105
>> >> [  191.859707]  [<813b71b0>] ? _raw_spin_unlock_irq+0xd/0x10
>> >> [  191.859718]  [<810446d5>] ? finish_task_switch+0x53/0x89
>> >> [  191.859730]  [<8102351d>] mm_release+0x1d/0xc3
>> >> [  191.859740]  [<81026ce9>] exit_mm+0x1d/0xe9
>> >> [  191.859750]  [<81032b87>] ? exit_signals+0x57/0x10a
>> >> [  191.859760]  [<81028082>] do_exit+0x19b/0x640
>> >> [  191.859770]  [<81058598>] ? futex_wait_queue_me+0xaa/0xbe
>> >> [  191.859781]  [<81030bbf>] ? recalc_sigpending_tsk+0x51/0x5c
>> >> [  191.859793]  [<81030beb>] ? recalc_sigpending+0x17/0x3e
>> >> [  191.859803]  [<81028752>] do_group_exit+0x63/0x86
>> >> [  191.859813]  [<81032b19>] get_signal_to_deliver+0x434/0x44b
>> >> [  191.859825]  [<81001e01>] do_signal+0x37/0x4fe
>> >> [  191.859837]  [<81048eed>] ? set_next_entity+0x36/0x9d
>> >> [  191.859850]  [<81050d8e>] ? timekeeping_get_ns+0x11/0x55
>> >> [  191.859861]  [<8105a754>] ? sys_futex+0xcb/0xdb
>> >> [  191.859871]  [<810024a7>] do_notify_resume+0x26/0x65
>> >> [  191.859883]  [<813b73a5>] work_notifysig+0xa/0x11
>> >> [  191.859893] Kernel panic - not syncing: too many ERR_PTR
>> >>
>> >> I don't know why mm_release() would page fault, but it looks like it does.
>> >>
>> >> So the OOM killer will not kill other processes because it thinks a
>> >> process is exiting, which will free up memory.  But the exiting
>> >> process needs memory to continue exiting --> deadlock.  Sounds
>> >> plausible?
>> >
>> > It sounds right in your kernel but principal problem is min_filelist_kbytes patch.
>> > If normal exited process in exit path requires a page and there is no free page
>> > any more, it ends up going to OOM path after try to reclaim memory several time.
>> > Then,
>> > In select_bad_process,
>> >
>> >         if (task->flags & PF_EXITING) {
>> >                if (task == current)             <== true
>> >                         return OOM_SCAN_SELECT;
>> > In oom_kill_process,
>> >
>> >         if (p->flags & PF_EXITING)
>> >                 set_tsk_thread_flag(p, TIF_MEMDIE);
>> >
>> > At last, normal exited process would get a free page.
>> >
>> > But in your kernel, it seems not because I guess did_some_progress in
>> > __alloc_pages_direct_reclaim is never 0. The why it is never 0 is
>> > do_try_to_free_pages's all_unreclaimable can't do his role by your
>> > min_filelist_kbytes. It makes __alloc_pages_slowpath's looping forever.
>> >
>> > Sounds plausible?
>>
>> Thank you Minchan, it does sound plausible, but I have little
>> experience with this and it will take some work to confirm.
>
> No problem :)
>
>>
>> I looked at the patch pretty carefully once, and I had the impression
>> its effect could be fully analyzed by logical reasoning. I will check
>> this again tomorrow, perhaps I can run some experiments.  I am adding
>> Mandeep who wrote the patch.
>>
>> However, we have worse problems if we don't use that patch.  Without
>> the patch, and either with or without compressed swap, the same load
>> causes horrible thrashing, with the system appearing to hang for
>> minutes.  If we don't use that patch, do you have any suggestion on
>> how to improve the code thrash situation?
>
> As I said, the motivation of the patch is good for embedded system but
> patch's implementation is kinda buggy. I will have a look and post if
> I'm luck to get a time.
>
> BTW, a question.
>
> How do you find proper value for min_filelist_kbytes?
> Just experiment with several trial?
>
> Thanks.

Yes.  Mandeep can give more detail, but, as I understand this, the
value we use (50 Mb) was based on experimentation.  It helps that at
the moment we run Chrome OS on a relatively uniform set of devices,
with either 2 or 4 GB of RAM, no swap, binaries stored on SSD (for
backing store of text pages), and the same load (the Chrome browser).

>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> >>
>> >> OK, now someone is going to fix this, right? :-)
>> >>
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>> > Minchan Kim
>> >
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