Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] SKSM: Synchronous Kernel Samepage Merging

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On 2025-02-27 21:51, Linus Torvalds wrote:
On Thu, 27 Feb 2025 at 18:31, Mathieu Desnoyers
<mathieu.desnoyers@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

This series introduces SKSM, a new page deduplication ABI,
aiming to fix the limitations inherent to the KSM ABI.

So I'm not interested in seeing *another* KSM version.

Because I absolutely do *NOT* want a new chapter in the saga of SLUB
vs SLAB vs SLOB.

However, if the feeling is that this can *replace* the current horror
that is KSM, I'm a lot more interested. I suspect our current KSM
model has largely been a failure, and this might be "good enough".
I'd be fine with SKSM replacing KSM entirely. However, I don't
think we should try to re-implement the existing KSM userspace ABIs
over SKSM. I suspect that much of the problems KSM has today are
caused by the semantic of the ABI it exposes, which were targeted
solely for a host deduplicating guest VMs memory use-case.

KSM tracks memory meant to be mergeable on an ongoing
basis with a worker thread:

  madvise(2) MADV_{UN,}MERGEABLE
  prctl(2) PR_{SET,GET}_MEMORY_MERGE (security concern)
  ~2.5k LOC exclusing ksm-common code
  requires parameter fine-tuning from sysadmin

SKSM gets the hint from userspace that memory is a good
candidate for merging in its current state and is expected
to stay invariant:

  madvise(2) MADV_MERGE
  ~100 LOC exclusing ksm-common code

The main reason why SKSM could be implemented without all the
scanning complexity is because of this simpler ABI.

Thanks for the feedback!

Mathieu

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Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com




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