Re: [RFC v2 0/9] khugepaged: mTHP support

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On 11/02/2025 00:30, Nico Pache wrote:
> The following series provides khugepaged and madvise collapse with the
> capability to collapse regions to mTHPs.
> 
> To achieve this we generalize the khugepaged functions to no longer depend
> on PMD_ORDER. Then during the PMD scan, we keep track of chunks of pages
> (defined by MTHP_MIN_ORDER) that are utilized. This info is tracked
> using a bitmap. After the PMD scan is done, we do binary recursion on the
> bitmap to find the optimal mTHP sizes for the PMD range. The restriction
> on max_ptes_none is removed during the scan, to make sure we account for
> the whole PMD range. max_ptes_none will be scaled by the attempted collapse
> order to determine how full a THP must be to be eligible. If a mTHP collapse
> is attempted, but contains swapped out, or shared pages, we dont perform the
> collapse.
> 
> With the default max_ptes_none=511, the code should keep its most of its 
> original behavior. To exercise mTHP collapse we need to set max_ptes_none<=255.
> With max_ptes_none > HPAGE_PMD_NR/2 you will experience collapse "creep" and 

nit: I think you mean "max_ptes_none >= HPAGE_PMD_NR/2" (greater or *equal*)?
This is making my head hurt, but I *think* I agree with you that if
max_ptes_none is less than half of the number of ptes in a pmd, then creep
doesn't happen.

To make sure I've understood;

 - to collapse to 16K, you would need >=3 out of 4 PTEs to be present
 - to collapse to 32K, you would need >=5 out of 8 PTEs to be present
 - to collapse to 64K, you would need >=9 out of 16 PTEs to be present
 - ...

So if we start with 3 present PTEs in a 16K area, we collapse to 16K and now
have 4 PTEs in a 32K area which is insufficient to collapse to 32K.

Sounds good to me!

> constantly promote mTHPs to the next available size.
> 
> Patch 1:     Some refactoring to combine madvise_collapse and khugepaged
> Patch 2:     Refactor/rename hpage_collapse
> Patch 3-5:   Generalize khugepaged functions for arbitrary orders
> Patch 6-9:   The mTHP patches
> 
> ---------
>  Testing
> ---------
> - Built for x86_64, aarch64, ppc64le, and s390x
> - selftests mm
> - I created a test script that I used to push khugepaged to its limits while
>    monitoring a number of stats and tracepoints. The code is available 
>    here[1] (Run in legacy mode for these changes and set mthp sizes to inherit)
>    The summary from my testings was that there was no significant regression
>    noticed through this test. In some cases my changes had better collapse
>    latencies, and was able to scan more pages in the same amount of time/work,
>    but for the most part the results were consistant.
> - redis testing. I tested these changes along with my defer changes
>   (see followup post for more details).
> - some basic testing on 64k page size.
> - lots of general use. These changes have been running in my VM for some time.
> 
> Changes since V1 [2]:
> - Minor bug fixes discovered during review and testing
> - removed dynamic allocations for bitmaps, and made them stack based
> - Adjusted bitmap offset from u8 to u16 to support 64k pagesize.
> - Updated trace events to include collapsing order info.
> - Scaled max_ptes_none by order rather than scaling to a 0-100 scale.
> - No longer require a chunk to be fully utilized before setting the bit. Use
>    the same max_ptes_none scaling principle to achieve this.
> - Skip mTHP collapse that requires swapin or shared handling. This helps prevent
>    some of the "creep" that was discovered in v1.
> 
> [1] - https://gitlab.com/npache/khugepaged_mthp_test
> [2] - https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250108233128.14484-1-npache@xxxxxxxxxx/
> 
> Nico Pache (9):
>   introduce khugepaged_collapse_single_pmd to unify khugepaged and
>     madvise_collapse
>   khugepaged: rename hpage_collapse_* to khugepaged_*
>   khugepaged: generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate for mTHP support
>   khugepaged: generalize alloc_charge_folio for mTHP support
>   khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support
>   khugepaged: introduce khugepaged_scan_bitmap for mTHP support
>   khugepaged: add mTHP support
>   khugepaged: improve tracepoints for mTHP orders
>   khugepaged: skip collapsing mTHP to smaller orders
> 
>  include/linux/khugepaged.h         |   4 +
>  include/trace/events/huge_memory.h |  34 ++-
>  mm/khugepaged.c                    | 422 +++++++++++++++++++----------
>  3 files changed, 306 insertions(+), 154 deletions(-)
> 





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