Re: [PATCH v4 14/14] Documentation: KHO: Add memblock bindings

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On Sun, Feb 09, 2025 at 04:23:09PM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 09/02/2025 16:10, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 09, 2025 at 11:29:41AM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> >> On 06/02/2025 14:27, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> >>> From: "Mike Rapoport (Microsoft)" <rppt@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>
> >>> We introduced KHO into Linux: A framework that allows Linux to pass
> >>> metadata and memory across kexec from Linux to Linux. KHO reuses fdt
> >>> as file format and shares a lot of the same properties of firmware-to-
> >>> Linux boot formats: It needs a stable, documented ABI that allows for
> >>> forward and backward compatibility as well as versioning.
> >>
> >> Please use subject prefixes matching the subsystem. You can get them for
> >> example with `git log --oneline -- DIRECTORY_OR_FILE` on the directory
> >> your patch is touching. For bindings, the preferred subjects are
> >> explained here:
> >> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/devicetree/bindings/submitting-patches.html#i-for-patch-submitters
> >  
> > These are not devicetree binding for communicating data from firmware to
> > the kernel. These bindings are specific to KHO which is perfectly
> > reflected by the subject.
> 
> No, it is not. None of the bindings use above subject prefix.
> 
> > 
> > Just a brief reminder from v2 discussion:
> > (https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20231222193607.15474-1-graf@xxxxxxxxxx/)
> > 
> > "For quick reference: KHO is a new mechanism this patch set introduces 
> > which allows Linux to pass arbitrary memory and metadata between kernels 
> > on kexec. I'm reusing FDTs to implement the hand over protocol, as 
> > Linux-to-Linux boot communication holds very similar properties to 
> > firmware-to-Linux boot communication. So this binding is not about 
> > hardware; it's about preserving Linux subsystem state across kexec.
> 
> does not matter. You added file to ABI documentation so you must follow
> that ABI documentation rules. One rule is proper subject prefix.
 
No, it does not. It's a different ABI.

FDT is a _data structure_ that provides cross platform unified, versioned,
introspectable data format.

Documentation/devicetree/bindings standardizes it's use for describing
hardware, but KHO uses FDT _data structure_ to describe state of the kernel
components that will be reused by the kexec'ed kernel.

KHO is a different namespace from Open Firmware Device Tree, with different
requirements and different stakeholders. Putting descriptions of KHO data
formats in Documentation/kho rather than in
Documentation/devicetree/bindings was not done to evade review of Open
Firmware Device Tree maintainers, but rather to emphasize that KHO FDT _is
not_ Open Firmware Device Tree.

> Best regards,
> Krzysztof

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.




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