Re: [PATCH bpf-next v6 3/6] locking/local_lock: Introduce local_trylock_t and local_trylock_irqsave()

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On Wed, Jan 29, 2025 at 12:17 AM Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
<bigeasy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> PeterZ, may I summon you.
>
> On 2025-01-28 10:50:33 [-0800], Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 9:21 AM Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
> > <bigeasy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 2025-01-23 19:56:52 [-0800], Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > > > Usage:
> > > >
> > > > local_lock_t lock;                     // sizeof(lock) == 0 in !RT
> > > > local_lock_irqsave(&lock, ...);        // irqsave as before
> > > > if (local_trylock_irqsave(&lock, ...)) // compilation error
> > > >
> > > > local_trylock_t lock;                  // sizeof(lock) == 4 in !RT
> > > > local_lock_irqsave(&lock, ...);        // irqsave and active = 1
> > > > if (local_trylock_irqsave(&lock, ...)) // if (!active) irqsave
> > >
> > > so I've been looking at this for a while and I don't like the part where
> > > the type is hidden away. It is then casted back. So I tried something
> > > with _Generics but then the existing guard implementation complained.
> > > Then I asked myself why do we want to hide much of the implementation
> > > and not make it obvious.
> >
> > Well, the idea of hiding extra field with _Generic is to avoid
> > the churn:
> >
> > git grep -E 'local_.*lock_irq'|wc -l
> > 42
>
> This could be also hidden with a macro defining the general body and
> having a place holder for "lock primitive".

How would that look like?

> > I think the api is clean enough and _Generic part is not exposed
> > to users.
> > Misuse or accidental usage is not possible either.
> > See the point:
> > if (local_trylock_irqsave(&lock, ...)) // compilation error
> >
> > So imo it's a better tradeoff.
> >
> > > is this anywhere near possible to accept?
> >
> > Other than churn it's fine.
> > I can go with it if you insist,
> > but casting and _Generic() I think is cleaner.
> > Certainly a bit unusual pattern.
> > Could you sleep on it?
>
> The cast there is somehow… We could have BUILD_BUG_ON() to ensure a
> stable the layout of the structs… However all this is not my call.
>
> PeterZ, do you have any preferences or an outline what you would like to
> see here?

I still don't get the objection.
This is a normal function polymorphism that is present
in many languages.
Consider spin_lock().
It's already vastly different in PREEMPT_RT vs not.
This is polymorphism. The same function has different
implementations depending on config and argument type.
This patch makes local_lock_irqsave() polymorphic
not only in PREEMPT_RT vs not,
but also depending on local_lock_t vs localtry_lock_t
argument type in !PREEMPT_RT.

Anyway, if I don't hear back from Peter or you soon
I'll just take your localtry_lock_t version of the patch
with you being an author and your SOB (ok ?) and
will make the next patch 4 to suffer all the code churn.
We cannot afford to get stuck on something as trivial
as this for days.





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