Hi Kees, On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 11:40:37AM -0800, Kees Cook wrote: > On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 06:26:55AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 03:52:23PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote: > > > > You seem to be saying you're pushing an internal feature on upstream and > > > > only care about internal use cases, this is not how upstream works, as > > > > Matthew alludes to. > > > > > > Internal? No. Chrome OS and Android. Linux runs more Android devices > > > than everything else in the world combined -- this is not some random > > > experiment. > > > > All of which are tightly controlled by Google and not actually open > > to users. Which doesn't say they don't matter, but they matter a > > lot less than fetures widely useful to the open not locked down > > userbase of classic Linux. > > I get your point. Though in my proposal it would be available to anyone > without CRIU too, which is, for example, defconfig builds (excepting > s390 and riscv). Just looking from time to time into this discussion, so I didn't follow everything. What makes s390 and riscv special here?