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On a very quick search:

	$ ./scripts/get_abi.pl search "\bmin.*max"

I can't see any place using min and max at the same devnode.

	$ ./scripts/get_abi.pl search "\b(min|max)"|grep /sys/ |wc -l
	234

So, it sounds to me that merging those into a single devnode is an
API violation.

> 
> There was another branch of the thread where Boris mentioned this as an
> option. It isn't bad to deal with and an easy change to the code,
> but I have an open question on what choice we make for representing
> unknown min / max.  For separate files the absence of the file
> indicates we don't have any information.
> 
> 
> >   
> > > 
> > > So in conclusion, I think the proposed multiple sysfs attribute style
> > > with them reading back the most recent value written is the least bad
> > > solution to a complex control interface.
> > >     
> > > > 
> > > > echo ... 
> > > > 
> > > > then writes in the bank.
> > > >       
> > > > > ... so we would propose we do not add max_ and min_ for now and see how the
> > > > > use cases evolve.        
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, you should apply that same methodology to the rest of the new features
> > > > you're adding: only add functionality for the stuff that is actually being
> > > > used now. You can always extend it later.
> > > > 
> > > > Changing an already user-visible API is a whole different story and a lot lot
> > > > harder, even impossible.
> > > > 
> > > > So I'd suggest you prune the EDAC patches from all the hypothetical usage and
> > > > then send only what remains so that I can try to queue them.      
> > > 
> > > Sure. In this case the addition of min/max was perhaps a wrong response to
> > > your request for a way to those ranges rather than just rejecting a write
> > > of something out of range as earlier version did.
> > > 
> > > We can revisit in future if range discovery becomes necessary.  Personally
> > > I don't think it is given we are only taking these actions in response error
> > > records that give us precisely what to write and hence are always in range.    
> > 
> > For RO devnodes, there's no need for ranges, but those are likely needed for
> > RW, as otherwise userspace may try to write invalid requests and/or have
> > backward-compatibility issues.  
> 
> Given these parameters are only meaningfully written with values coming
> ultimately from error records, userspace should never consider writing
> something that is out of range except during testing.
> 
> I don't mind presenting the range where known (in CXL case it is not
> discoverable for most of them) but I wouldn't expect tooling to ever
> read it as known correct values to write come from the error records.
> Checking those values against provided limits seems an unnecessary step
> given an invalid parameter that slips through will be rejected by the
> hardware anyway.

I'm fine starting without min/max if there's no current usecase, provided
that:

1. when needed, we add min/max as separate devnodes;
2. there won't be any backward issues when min/max gets added.

Regards,
Mauro





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