On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 4:09 AM Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 2024/11/5 05:29, Jann Horn wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 5:42 PM Lorenzo Stoakes > > [...] > > > > > I think it's important to know about the existence of hardware writes > > because it means you need atomic operations when making changes to > > page tables. Like, for example, in many cases when changing a present > > PTE, you can't even use READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE() for PTEs and need > > atomic RMW operations instead - see for example ptep_get_and_clear(), > > which is basically implemented in arch code as an atomic xchg so that > > it can't miss concurrent A/D bit updates. > > > > Totally agree! But I noticed before that ptep_clear() doesn't seem > to need atomic operations because it doesn't need to care about the > A/D bit. > > I once looked at the history of how the ptep_clear() was introduced. > If you are interested, you can take a look at my local draft below. > Maybe I missed something. > > ``` > mm: pgtable: make ptep_clear() non-atomic > > In the generic ptep_get_and_clear() implementation, it is just a simple > combination of ptep_get() and pte_clear(). But for some architectures > (such as x86 and arm64, etc), the hardware will modify the A/D bits > of the > page table entry, so the ptep_get_and_clear() needs to be overwritten > and implemented as an atomic operation to avoid contention, which has a > performance cost. > > The commit d283d422c6c4 ("x86: mm: add x86_64 support for page table > check") adds the ptep_clear() on the x86, and makes it call > ptep_get_and_clear() when CONFIG_PAGE_TABLE_CHECK is enabled. The page > table check feature does not actually care about the A/D bits, so only > ptep_get() + pte_clear() should be called. But considering that the > page > table check is a debug option, this should not have much of an impact. > > But then the commit de8c8e52836d ("mm: page_table_check: add hooks to > public helpers") changed ptep_clear() to unconditionally call > ptep_get_and_clear(), so that the CONFIG_PAGE_TABLE_CHECK check can be > put into the page table check stubs (in > include/linux/page_table_check.h). > This also cause performance loss to the kernel without > CONFIG_PAGE_TABLE_CHECK enabled, which doesn't make sense. > > To fix it, just calling ptep_get() and pte_clear() in the ptep_clear(). > > Signed-off-by: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > diff --git a/include/linux/pgtable.h b/include/linux/pgtable.h > index 117b807e3f894..2ace92293f5f5 100644 > --- a/include/linux/pgtable.h > +++ b/include/linux/pgtable.h > @@ -506,7 +506,10 @@ static inline void clear_young_dirty_ptes(struct > vm_area_struct *vma, > static inline void ptep_clear(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long addr, > pte_t *ptep) > { > - ptep_get_and_clear(mm, addr, ptep); > + pte_t pte = ptep_get(ptep); > + > + pte_clear(mm, addr, ptep); > + page_table_check_pte_clear(mm, pte); > } > > ``` ptep_clear() is currently only used in debug code and in khugepaged collapse paths, which are fairly expensive, so I don't think the cost of an extra atomic RMW op should matter here; but yeah, the change looks correct to me.