On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 10:36 AM Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 6:38 PM Jingbo Xu <jefflexu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 10/25/24 12:54 AM, Joanne Koong wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 2:05 PM Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> > > >> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 3:15 AM Miklos Szeredi <miklos@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 at 07:31, Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> I feel like this is too much restrictive and I am still not sure why > > >>>> blocking on fuse folios served by non-privileges fuse server is worse > > >>>> than blocking on folios served from the network. > > >>> > > >>> Might be. But historically fuse had this behavior and I'd be very > > >>> reluctant to change that unconditionally. > > >>> > > >>> With a systemwide maximal timeout for fuse requests it might make > > >>> sense to allow sync(2), etc. to wait for fuse writeback. > > >>> > > >>> Without a timeout allowing fuse servers to block sync(2) indefinitely > > >>> seems rather risky. > > >> > > >> Could we skip waiting on writeback in sync(2) if it's a fuse folio? > > >> That seems in line with the sync(2) documentation Jingbo referenced > > >> earlier where it states "The writing, although scheduled, is not > > >> necessarily complete upon return from sync()." > > >> https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/sync.html > > >> > > > > > > So I think the answer to this is "no" for Linux. What the Linux man > > > page for sync(2) says: > > > > > > "According to the standard specification (e.g., POSIX.1-2001), sync() > > > schedules the writes, but may return before the actual writing is > > > done. However Linux waits for I/O completions, and thus sync() or > > > syncfs() provide the same guarantees as fsync() called on every file > > > in the system or filesystem respectively." [1] > > > > Actually as for FUSE, IIUC the writeback is not guaranteed to be > > completed when sync(2) returns since the temp page mechanism. When > > sync(2) returns, PG_writeback is indeed cleared for all original pages > > (in the address_space), while the real writeback work (initiated from > > temp page) may be still in progress. > > > > That's a great point. It seems like we can just skip waiting on > writeback to finish for fuse folios in sync(2) altogether then. I'll > look into what's the best way to do this. I think the most straightforward way to do this for sync(2) is to add the mapping check inside sync_bdevs(). With something like: diff --git a/block/bdev.c b/block/bdev.c index 738e3c8457e7..bcb2b6d3db94 100644 --- a/block/bdev.c +++ b/block/bdev.c @@ -1247,7 +1247,7 @@ void sync_bdevs(bool wait) mutex_lock(&bdev->bd_disk->open_mutex); if (!atomic_read(&bdev->bd_openers)) { ; /* skip */ - } else if (wait) { + } else if (wait && !mapping_no_writeback_wait(inode->i_mapping)) { /* * We keep the error status of individual mapping so * that applications can catch the writeback error using and changing AS_NO_WRITEBACK_RECLAIM to AS_NO_WRITEBACK_WAIT. Thanks, Joanne >