On 11. Oct 2024, at 14:04, David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 10.10.24 17:52, Fares Mehanna wrote:
In a series posted a few years ago [1], a proposal was put forward to allow the
kernel to allocate memory local to a mm and thus push it out of reach for
current and future speculation-based cross-process attacks. We still believe
this is a nice thing to have.
However, in the time passed since that post Linux mm has grown quite a few new
goodies, so we'd like to explore possibilities to implement this functionality
with less effort and churn leveraging the now available facilities.
An RFC was posted few months back [2] to show the proof of concept and a simple
test driver.
In this RFC, we're using the same approach of implementing mm-local allocations
piggy-backing on memfd_secret(), using regular user addresses but pinning the
pages and flipping the user/supervisor flag on the respective PTEs to make them
directly accessible from kernel.
In addition to that we are submitting 5 patches to use the secret memory to hide
the vCPU gp-regs and fp-regs on arm64 VHE systems.
I'm a bit lost on what exactly we want to achieve. The point where we
start flipping user/supervisor flags confuses me :)
With secretmem, you'd get memory allocated that
(a) Is accessible by user space -- mapped into user space.
(b) Is inaccessible by kernel space -- not mapped into the direct map
(c) GUP will fail, but copy_from / copy_to user will work.
Another way, without secretmem, would be to consider these "secrets"
kernel allocations that can be mapped into user space using mmap() of a
special fd. That is, they wouldn't have their origin in secretmem, but
in KVM as a kernel allocation. It could be achieved by using VM_MIXEDMAP
with vm_insert_pages(), manually removing them from the directmap.
But, I am not sure who is supposed to access what. Let's explore the
requirements. I assume we want:
(a) Pages accessible by user space -- mapped into user space.
(b) Pages inaccessible by kernel space -- not mapped into the direct map
(c) GUP to fail (no direct map).
(d) copy_from / copy_to user to fail?
And on top of that, some way to access these pages on demand from kernel
space? (temporary CPU-local mapping?)
Or how would the kernel make use of these allocations?
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
Hi David,
Hi Fares!
Thanks for taking a look at the patches!
We're trying to allocate a kernel memory that is accessible to the kernel but
only when the context of the process is loaded.
So this is a kernel memory that is not needed to operate the kernel itself, it
is to store & process data on behalf of a process. The requirement for this
memory is that it would never be touched unless the process is scheduled on this
core. otherwise any other access will crash the kernel.
So this memory should only be directly readable and writable by the kernel, but
only when the process context is loaded. The memory shouldn't be readable or
writable by the owner process at all.
This is basically done by removing those pages from kernel linear address and
attaching them only in the process mm_struct. So during context switching the
kernel loses access to the secret memory scheduled out and gain access to the
new process secret memory.
This generally protects against speculation attacks, and if other process managed
to trick the kernel to leak data from memory. In this case the kernel will crash
if it tries to access other processes secret memory.
Since this memory is special in the sense that it is kernel memory but only make
sense in the term of the owner process, I tried in this patch series to explore
the possibility of reusing memfd_secret() to allocate this memory in user virtual
address space, manage it in a VMA, flipping the permissions while keeping the
control of the mapping exclusively with the kernel.
Right now it is:
(a) Pages not accessible by user space -- even though they are mapped into user
space, the PTEs are marked for kernel usage.
Ah, that is the detail I was missing, now I see what you are trying to achieve, thanks!
It is a bit architecture specific, because ... imagine architectures that have separate kernel+user space page table hierarchies, and not a simple PTE flag to change access permissions between kernel/user space.
IIRC s390 is one such architecture that uses separate page tables for the user-space + kernel-space portions.
(b) Pages accessible by kernel space -- even though they are not mapped into the
direct map, the PTEs in uvaddr are marked for kernel usage.
(c) copy_from / copy_to user won't fail -- because it is in the user range, but
this can be fixed by allocating specific range in user vaddr to this feature
and check against this range there.
(d) The secret memory vaddr is guessable by the owner process -- that can also
be fixed by allocating bigger chunk of user vaddr for this feature and
randomly placing the secret memory there.
(e) Mapping is off-limits to the owner process by marking the VMA as locked,
sealed and special.
Okay, so in this RFC you are jumping through quite some hoops to have a kernel allocation unmapped from the direct map but mapped into a per-process page table only accessible by kernel space. :)
So you really don't want this mapped into user space at all (consequently, no GUP, no access, no copy_from_user ...). In this RFC it's mapped but turned inaccessible by flipping the "kernel vs. user" switch.
Other alternative (that was implemented in the first submission) is to track those
allocations in a non-shared kernel PGD per process, then handle creating, forking
and context-switching this PGD.
That sounds like a better approach. So we would remove the pages from the shared kernel direct map and map them into a separate kernel-portion in the per-MM page tables?
Can you envision that would also work with architectures like s390x? I assume we would not only need the per-MM user space page table hierarchy, but also a per-MM kernel space page table hierarchy, into which we also map the common/shared-among-all-processes kernel space page tables (e.g., directmap).
