On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 10:07 PM David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 31.08.24 11:55, Barry Song wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 9:44 PM David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 31.08.24 11:23, Barry Song wrote:
> >>> From: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@xxxxxxxx>
> >>>
> >>> On a physical phone, it's sometimes observed that deferred_split
> >>> mTHPs account for over 15% of the total mTHPs. Profiling by Chuanhua
> >>> indicates that the majority of these originate from the typical fork
> >>> scenario.
> >>> When the child process either execs or exits, the parent process should
> >>> ideally be able to reuse the entire mTHP. However, the current kernel
> >>> lacks this capability and instead places the mTHP into split_deferred,
> >>> performing a CoW (Copy-on-Write) on just a single subpage of the mTHP.
> >>>
> >>> main()
> >>> {
> >>> #define SIZE 1024 * 1024UL
> >>> void *p = malloc(SIZE);
> >>> memset(p, 0x11, SIZE);
> >>> if (fork() == 0)
> >>> exec(....);
> >>> /*
> >>> * this will trigger cow one subpage from
> >>> * mTHP and put mTHP into split_deferred
> >>> * list
> >>> */
> >>> *(int *)(p + 10) = 10;
> >>> printf("done\n");
> >>> while(1);
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> This leads to two significant issues:
> >>>
> >>> * Memory Waste: Before the mTHP is fully split by the shrinker,
> >>> it wastes memory. In extreme cases, such as with a 64KB mTHP,
> >>> the memory usage could be 64KB + 60KB until the last subpage
> >>> is written, at which point the mTHP is freed.
> >>>
> >>> * Fragmentation and Performance Loss: It destroys large folios
> >>> (negating the performance benefits of CONT-PTE) and fragments memory.
> >>>
> >>> To address this, we should aim to reuse the entire mTHP in such cases.
> >>>
> >>> Hi David,
> >>>
> >>> I’ve renamed wp_page_reuse() to wp_folio_reuse() and added an
> >>> entirely_reuse argument because I’m not sure if there are still cases
> >>> where we reuse a subpage within an mTHP. For now, I’m setting
> >>> entirely_reuse to true only for the newly supported case, while all
> >>> other cases still get false. Please let me know if this is incorrect—if
> >>> we don’t reuse subpages at all, we could remove the argument.
> >>
> >> See [1] I sent out this week, that is able to reuse even without
> >> scanning page tables. If we find the the folio is exclusive we could try
> >> processing surrounding PTEs that map the same folio.
> >>
> >> [1] https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20240829165627.2256514-1-david@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Great! It looks like I missed your patch again. Since you've implemented this
> > in a better way, I’d prefer to use your patchset.
>
> I wouldn't say better, just more universally. And while taking care of
> properly sync'ing the mapcount vs. refcount :P
>
> >
> > I’m curious about how you're handling ptep_set_access_flags_nr() or similar
> > things because I couldn’t find the related code in your patch 10/17:
> >
> > [PATCH v1 10/17] mm: COW reuse support for PTE-mapped THP with CONFIG_MM_ID
> >
> > Am I missing something?
>
> The idea is to keep individual write faults as fast as possible. So the
> patch set keeps it simple and only reuses a single PTE at a time,
> setting that one PAE and mapping it writable.
I got your point, thanks! as anyway the mTHP has been exclusive,
so the following nr-1 minor page faults will set their particular PTE
to writable one by one.
>
> As the patch states, it might be reasonable to optimize some cases,
> maybe also only on some architectures. For example to fault-around and
> map the other ones writable as well. It might not always be desirable
> though, especially not for larger folios.
as anyway, the mTHP has been entirely exclusive, setting all PTEs
directly to writable should help reduce nr - 1 minor page faults and
ideally help reduce CONTPTE unfold and fold?
What is the downside to doing that? I also don't think mapping them
all together will waste memory?
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David / dhildenb
>
Thanks
Barry
