Re: [PATCH 0/3] mm/page_alloc: Introduce a new sysctl knob vm.pcp_batch_scale_max

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On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 7:05 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> > On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 4:38 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> >>
> >> > On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 2:40 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 11:02 AM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Background
> >> >> >> > ==========
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > In our containerized environment, we have a specific type of container
> >> >> >> > that runs 18 processes, each consuming approximately 6GB of RSS. These
> >> >> >> > processes are organized as separate processes rather than threads due
> >> >> >> > to the Python Global Interpreter Lock (GIL) being a bottleneck in a
> >> >> >> > multi-threaded setup. Upon the exit of these containers, other
> >> >> >> > containers hosted on the same machine experience significant latency
> >> >> >> > spikes.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Investigation
> >> >> >> > =============
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > My investigation using perf tracing revealed that the root cause of
> >> >> >> > these spikes is the simultaneous execution of exit_mmap() by each of
> >> >> >> > the exiting processes. This concurrent access to the zone->lock
> >> >> >> > results in contention, which becomes a hotspot and negatively impacts
> >> >> >> > performance. The perf results clearly indicate this contention as a
> >> >> >> > primary contributor to the observed latency issues.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > +   77.02%     0.00%  uwsgi    [kernel.kallsyms]                                  [k] mmput
> >> >> >> > -   76.98%     0.01%  uwsgi    [kernel.kallsyms]                                  [k] exit_mmap
> >> >> >> >    - 76.97% exit_mmap
> >> >> >> >       - 58.58% unmap_vmas
> >> >> >> >          - 58.55% unmap_single_vma
> >> >> >> >             - unmap_page_range
> >> >> >> >                - 58.32% zap_pte_range
> >> >> >> >                   - 42.88% tlb_flush_mmu
> >> >> >> >                      - 42.76% free_pages_and_swap_cache
> >> >> >> >                         - 41.22% release_pages
> >> >> >> >                            - 33.29% free_unref_page_list
> >> >> >> >                               - 32.37% free_unref_page_commit
> >> >> >> >                                  - 31.64% free_pcppages_bulk
> >> >> >> >                                     + 28.65% _raw_spin_lock
> >> >> >> >                                       1.28% __list_del_entry_valid
> >> >> >> >                            + 3.25% folio_lruvec_lock_irqsave
> >> >> >> >                            + 0.75% __mem_cgroup_uncharge_list
> >> >> >> >                              0.60% __mod_lruvec_state
> >> >> >> >                           1.07% free_swap_cache
> >> >> >> >                   + 11.69% page_remove_rmap
> >> >> >> >                     0.64% __mod_lruvec_page_state
> >> >> >> >       - 17.34% remove_vma
> >> >> >> >          - 17.25% vm_area_free
> >> >> >> >             - 17.23% kmem_cache_free
> >> >> >> >                - 17.15% __slab_free
> >> >> >> >                   - 14.56% discard_slab
> >> >> >> >                        free_slab
> >> >> >> >                        __free_slab
> >> >> >> >                        __free_pages
> >> >> >> >                      - free_unref_page
> >> >> >> >                         - 13.50% free_unref_page_commit
> >> >> >> >                            - free_pcppages_bulk
> >> >> >> >                               + 13.44% _raw_spin_lock
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I don't think your change will reduce zone->lock contention cycles.  So,
> >> >> >> I don't find the value of the above data.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > By enabling the mm_page_pcpu_drain() we can locate the pertinent page,
> >> >> >> > with the majority of them being regular order-0 user pages.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >           <...>-1540432 [224] d..3. 618048.023883: mm_page_pcpu_drain: page=0000000035a1b0b7 pfn=0x11c19c72 order=0 migratetyp
> >> >> >> > e=1
> >> >> >> >            <...>-1540432 [224] d..3. 618048.023887: <stack trace>
> >> >> >> >  => free_pcppages_bulk
> >> >> >> >  => free_unref_page_commit
> >> >> >> >  => free_unref_page_list
> >> >> >> >  => release_pages
> >> >> >> >  => free_pages_and_swap_cache
> >> >> >> >  => tlb_flush_mmu
> >> >> >> >  => zap_pte_range
> >> >> >> >  => unmap_page_range
> >> >> >> >  => unmap_single_vma
> >> >> >> >  => unmap_vmas
> >> >> >> >  => exit_mmap
> >> >> >> >  => mmput
> >> >> >> >  => do_exit
> >> >> >> >  => do_group_exit
> >> >> >> >  => get_signal
> >> >> >> >  => arch_do_signal_or_restart
> >> >> >> >  => exit_to_user_mode_prepare
> >> >> >> >  => syscall_exit_to_user_mode
> >> >> >> >  => do_syscall_64
> >> >> >> >  => entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The servers experiencing these issues are equipped with impressive
> >> >> >> > hardware specifications, including 256 CPUs and 1TB of memory, all
> >> >> >> > within a single NUMA node. The zoneinfo is as follows,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Node 0, zone   Normal
> >> >> >> >   pages free     144465775
> >> >> >> >         boost    0
> >> >> >> >         min      1309270
> >> >> >> >         low      1636587
> >> >> >> >         high     1963904
> >> >> >> >         spanned  564133888
> >> >> >> >         present  296747008
> >> >> >> >         managed  291974346
> >> >> >> >         cma      0
> >> >> >> >         protection: (0, 0, 0, 0)
> >> >> >> > ...
> >> >> >> >   pagesets
> >> >> >> >     cpu: 0
> >> >> >> >               count: 2217
> >> >> >> >               high:  6392
> >> >> >> >               batch: 63
> >> >> >> >   vm stats threshold: 125
> >> >> >> >     cpu: 1
> >> >> >> >               count: 4510
> >> >> >> >               high:  6392
> >> >> >> >               batch: 63
> >> >> >> >   vm stats threshold: 125
> >> >> >> >     cpu: 2
> >> >> >> >               count: 3059
> >> >> >> >               high:  6392
> >> >> >> >               batch: 63
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > ...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The pcp high is around 100 times the batch size.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I also traced the latency associated with the free_pcppages_bulk()
> >> >> >> > function during the container exit process:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >      nsecs               : count     distribution
> >> >> >> >          0 -> 1          : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >          2 -> 3          : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >          4 -> 7          : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >          8 -> 15         : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >         16 -> 31         : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >         32 -> 63         : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >         64 -> 127        : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >        128 -> 255        : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >        256 -> 511        : 148      |*****************                       |
> >> >> >> >        512 -> 1023       : 334      |****************************************|
> >> >> >> >       1024 -> 2047       : 33       |***                                     |
> >> >> >> >       2048 -> 4095       : 5        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >       4096 -> 8191       : 7        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >       8192 -> 16383      : 12       |*                                       |
> >> >> >> >      16384 -> 32767      : 30       |***                                     |
> >> >> >> >      32768 -> 65535      : 21       |**                                      |
> >> >> >> >      65536 -> 131071     : 15       |*                                       |
> >> >> >> >     131072 -> 262143     : 27       |***                                     |
> >> >> >> >     262144 -> 524287     : 84       |**********                              |
> >> >> >> >     524288 -> 1048575    : 203      |************************                |
> >> >> >> >    1048576 -> 2097151    : 284      |**********************************      |
> >> >> >> >    2097152 -> 4194303    : 327      |*************************************** |
> >> >> >> >    4194304 -> 8388607    : 215      |*************************               |
> >> >> >> >    8388608 -> 16777215   : 116      |*************                           |
> >> >> >> >   16777216 -> 33554431   : 47       |*****                                   |
> >> >> >> >   33554432 -> 67108863   : 8        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >   67108864 -> 134217727  : 3        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The latency can reach tens of milliseconds.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Experimenting
> >> >> >> > =============
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > vm.percpu_pagelist_high_fraction
> >> >> >> > --------------------------------
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The kernel version currently deployed in our production environment is the
> >> >> >> > stable 6.1.y, and my initial strategy involves optimizing the
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> IMHO, we should focus on upstream activity in the cover letter and patch
> >> >> >> description.  And I don't think that it's necessary to describe the
> >> >> >> alternative solution with too much details.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > vm.percpu_pagelist_high_fraction parameter. By increasing the value of
> >> >> >> > vm.percpu_pagelist_high_fraction, I aim to diminish the batch size during
> >> >> >> > page draining, which subsequently leads to a substantial reduction in
> >> >> >> > latency. After setting the sysctl value to 0x7fffffff, I observed a notable
> >> >> >> > improvement in latency.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >      nsecs               : count     distribution
> >> >> >> >          0 -> 1          : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >          2 -> 3          : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >          4 -> 7          : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >          8 -> 15         : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >         16 -> 31         : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >         32 -> 63         : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >         64 -> 127        : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >        128 -> 255        : 120      |                                        |
> >> >> >> >        256 -> 511        : 365      |*                                       |
> >> >> >> >        512 -> 1023       : 201      |                                        |
> >> >> >> >       1024 -> 2047       : 103      |                                        |
> >> >> >> >       2048 -> 4095       : 84       |                                        |
> >> >> >> >       4096 -> 8191       : 87       |                                        |
> >> >> >> >       8192 -> 16383      : 4777     |**************                          |
> >> >> >> >      16384 -> 32767      : 10572    |*******************************         |
> >> >> >> >      32768 -> 65535      : 13544    |****************************************|
> >> >> >> >      65536 -> 131071     : 12723    |*************************************   |
> >> >> >> >     131072 -> 262143     : 8604     |*************************               |
> >> >> >> >     262144 -> 524287     : 3659     |**********                              |
> >> >> >> >     524288 -> 1048575    : 921      |**                                      |
> >> >> >> >    1048576 -> 2097151    : 122      |                                        |
> >> >> >> >    2097152 -> 4194303    : 5        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > However, augmenting vm.percpu_pagelist_high_fraction can also decrease the
> >> >> >> > pcp high watermark size to a minimum of four times the batch size. While
> >> >> >> > this could theoretically affect throughput, as highlighted by Ying[0], we
> >> >> >> > have yet to observe any significant difference in throughput within our
> >> >> >> > production environment after implementing this change.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Backporting the series "mm: PCP high auto-tuning"
> >> >> >> > -------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Again, not upstream activity.  We can describe the upstream behavior
> >> >> >> directly.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Andrew has requested that I provide a more comprehensive analysis of
> >> >> > this issue, and in response, I have endeavored to outline all the
> >> >> > pertinent details in a thorough and detailed manner.
> >> >>
> >> >> IMHO, upstream activity can provide comprehensive analysis of the issue
> >> >> too.  And, your patch has changed much from the first version.  It's
> >> >> better to describe your current version.
> >> >
> >> > After backporting the pcp auto-tuning feature to the 6.1.y branch, the
> >> > code is almost the same with the upstream kernel wrt the pcp. I have
> >> > thoroughly documented the detailed data showcasing the changes in the
> >> > backported version, providing a clear picture of the results. However,
> >> > it's crucial to note that I am unable to directly run the upstream
> >> > kernel on our production environment due to practical constraints.
> >>
> >> IMHO, the patch is for upstream kernel, not some downstream kernel, so
> >> focus should be the upstream activity.  The issue of the upstream
> >> kernel, and how to resolve it.  The production environment test results
> >> can be used to support the upstream change.
> >
> >  The sole distinction in the pcp between version 6.1.y and the
> > upstream kernel lies solely in the modifications made to the code by
> > you. Furthermore, given that your code changes have now been
> > successfully backported, what else do you expect me to do ?
>
> If you can run the upstream kernel directly with some proxy workloads,
> it will be better.  But, I understand that this may be not easy for you.
>
> So, what I really expect you to do is to organize the patch description
> in an upstream centric way.  Describe the issue of the upstream kernel,
> and how do you resolve it.  Although your test data comes from a
> downstream kernel with the same page allocator behavior.
>
> >>
> >> >> >> > My second endeavor was to backport the series titled
> >> >> >> > "mm: PCP high auto-tuning"[1], which comprises nine individual patches,
> >> >> >> > into our 6.1.y stable kernel version. Subsequent to its deployment in our
> >> >> >> > production environment, I noted a pronounced reduction in latency. The
> >> >> >> > observed outcomes are as enumerated below:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >      nsecs               : count     distribution
> >> >> >> >          0 -> 1          : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >          2 -> 3          : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >          4 -> 7          : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >          8 -> 15         : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >         16 -> 31         : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >         32 -> 63         : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >         64 -> 127        : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >        128 -> 255        : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >        256 -> 511        : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >        512 -> 1023       : 0        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >       1024 -> 2047       : 2        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >       2048 -> 4095       : 11       |                                        |
> >> >> >> >       4096 -> 8191       : 3        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >       8192 -> 16383      : 1        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >      16384 -> 32767      : 2        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >      32768 -> 65535      : 7        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >      65536 -> 131071     : 198      |*********                               |
> >> >> >> >     131072 -> 262143     : 530      |************************                |
> >> >> >> >     262144 -> 524287     : 824      |**************************************  |
> >> >> >> >     524288 -> 1048575    : 852      |****************************************|
> >> >> >> >    1048576 -> 2097151    : 714      |*********************************       |
> >> >> >> >    2097152 -> 4194303    : 389      |******************                      |
> >> >> >> >    4194304 -> 8388607    : 143      |******                                  |
> >> >> >> >    8388608 -> 16777215   : 29       |*                                       |
> >> >> >> >   16777216 -> 33554431   : 1        |                                        |
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Compared to the previous data, the maximum latency has been reduced to
> >> >> >> > less than 30ms.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> People don't care too much about page freeing latency during processes
> >> >> >> exiting.  Instead, they care more about the process exiting time, that
> >> >> >> is, throughput.  So, it's better to show the page allocation latency
> >> >> >> which is affected by the simultaneous processes exiting.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm confused also. Is this issue really hard to understand ?
> >> >>
> >> >> IMHO, it's better to prove the issue directly.  If you cannot prove it
> >> >> directly, you can try alternative one and describe why.
> >> >
> >> > Not all data can be verified straightforwardly or effortlessly. The
> >> > primary focus lies in the zone->lock contention, which necessitates
> >> > measuring the latency it incurs. To accomplish this, the
> >> > free_pcppages_bulk() function serves as an effective tool for
> >> > evaluation. Therefore, I have opted to specifically measure the
> >> > latency associated with free_pcppages_bulk().
> >> >
> >> > The rationale behind not measuring allocation latency is due to the
> >> > necessity of finding a willing participant to endure potential delays,
> >> > a task that proved unsuccessful as no one expressed interest. In
> >> > contrast, assessing free_pcppages_bulk()'s latency solely requires
> >> > identifying and experimenting with the source causing the delays,
> >> > making it a more feasible approach.
> >>
> >> Can you run a benchmark program that do quite some memory allocation by
> >> yourself to test it?
> >
> > I can have a try.
>
> Thanks!
>
> > However, is it the key point here?
>
> It's better to prove the issue directly instead of indirectly.
>
> > Why can't the lock contention be measured by the freeing?
>
> Have you measured the lock contention after adjusting
> CONFIG_PCP_BATCH_SCALE_MAX?  IIUC, the lock contention will become even
> worse.  Smaller CONFIG_PCP_BATCH_SCALE_MAX helps latency, but it will
> hurt lock contention.  I have said it several times, but it seems that
> you don't agree with me.  Can you prove I'm wrong with data?

Now I understand the point. It seems we have different understandings
regarding the zone lock contention.

    CPU A  (Freer)                    CPU B (Allocator)
lock zone->lock
free pages                              lock zone->lock
unlock zone->lock                  alloc pages
                                               unlock zone->lock

If the Freer holds the zone lock for an extended period, the Allocator
has to wait, right? Isn't that a lock contention issue? Lock
contention affects not only CPU system usage but also latency.

-- 
Regards
Yafang





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