On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 7:05 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 4:38 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> > >> > On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 2:40 PM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 11:02 AM Huang, Ying <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Background > >> >> >> > ========== > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > In our containerized environment, we have a specific type of container > >> >> >> > that runs 18 processes, each consuming approximately 6GB of RSS. These > >> >> >> > processes are organized as separate processes rather than threads due > >> >> >> > to the Python Global Interpreter Lock (GIL) being a bottleneck in a > >> >> >> > multi-threaded setup. Upon the exit of these containers, other > >> >> >> > containers hosted on the same machine experience significant latency > >> >> >> > spikes. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Investigation > >> >> >> > ============= > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > My investigation using perf tracing revealed that the root cause of > >> >> >> > these spikes is the simultaneous execution of exit_mmap() by each of > >> >> >> > the exiting processes. This concurrent access to the zone->lock > >> >> >> > results in contention, which becomes a hotspot and negatively impacts > >> >> >> > performance. The perf results clearly indicate this contention as a > >> >> >> > primary contributor to the observed latency issues. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > + 77.02% 0.00% uwsgi [kernel.kallsyms] [k] mmput > >> >> >> > - 76.98% 0.01% uwsgi [kernel.kallsyms] [k] exit_mmap > >> >> >> > - 76.97% exit_mmap > >> >> >> > - 58.58% unmap_vmas > >> >> >> > - 58.55% unmap_single_vma > >> >> >> > - unmap_page_range > >> >> >> > - 58.32% zap_pte_range > >> >> >> > - 42.88% tlb_flush_mmu > >> >> >> > - 42.76% free_pages_and_swap_cache > >> >> >> > - 41.22% release_pages > >> >> >> > - 33.29% free_unref_page_list > >> >> >> > - 32.37% free_unref_page_commit > >> >> >> > - 31.64% free_pcppages_bulk > >> >> >> > + 28.65% _raw_spin_lock > >> >> >> > 1.28% __list_del_entry_valid > >> >> >> > + 3.25% folio_lruvec_lock_irqsave > >> >> >> > + 0.75% __mem_cgroup_uncharge_list > >> >> >> > 0.60% __mod_lruvec_state > >> >> >> > 1.07% free_swap_cache > >> >> >> > + 11.69% page_remove_rmap > >> >> >> > 0.64% __mod_lruvec_page_state > >> >> >> > - 17.34% remove_vma > >> >> >> > - 17.25% vm_area_free > >> >> >> > - 17.23% kmem_cache_free > >> >> >> > - 17.15% __slab_free > >> >> >> > - 14.56% discard_slab > >> >> >> > free_slab > >> >> >> > __free_slab > >> >> >> > __free_pages > >> >> >> > - free_unref_page > >> >> >> > - 13.50% free_unref_page_commit > >> >> >> > - free_pcppages_bulk > >> >> >> > + 13.44% _raw_spin_lock > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I don't think your change will reduce zone->lock contention cycles. So, > >> >> >> I don't find the value of the above data. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > By enabling the mm_page_pcpu_drain() we can locate the pertinent page, > >> >> >> > with the majority of them being regular order-0 user pages. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > <...>-1540432 [224] d..3. 618048.023883: mm_page_pcpu_drain: page=0000000035a1b0b7 pfn=0x11c19c72 order=0 migratetyp > >> >> >> > e=1 > >> >> >> > <...>-1540432 [224] d..3. 618048.023887: <stack trace> > >> >> >> > => free_pcppages_bulk > >> >> >> > => free_unref_page_commit > >> >> >> > => free_unref_page_list > >> >> >> > => release_pages > >> >> >> > => free_pages_and_swap_cache > >> >> >> > => tlb_flush_mmu > >> >> >> > => zap_pte_range > >> >> >> > => unmap_page_range > >> >> >> > => unmap_single_vma > >> >> >> > => unmap_vmas > >> >> >> > => exit_mmap > >> >> >> > => mmput > >> >> >> > => do_exit > >> >> >> > => do_group_exit > >> >> >> > => get_signal > >> >> >> > => arch_do_signal_or_restart > >> >> >> > => exit_to_user_mode_prepare > >> >> >> > => syscall_exit_to_user_mode > >> >> >> > => do_syscall_64 > >> >> >> > => entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > The servers experiencing these issues are equipped with impressive > >> >> >> > hardware specifications, including 256 CPUs and 1TB of memory, all > >> >> >> > within a single NUMA node. The zoneinfo is as follows, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Node 0, zone Normal > >> >> >> > pages free 144465775 > >> >> >> > boost 0 > >> >> >> > min 1309270 > >> >> >> > low 1636587 > >> >> >> > high 1963904 > >> >> >> > spanned 564133888 > >> >> >> > present 296747008 > >> >> >> > managed 291974346 > >> >> >> > cma 0 > >> >> >> > protection: (0, 0, 0, 0) > >> >> >> > ... > >> >> >> > pagesets > >> >> >> > cpu: 0 > >> >> >> > count: 2217 > >> >> >> > high: 6392 > >> >> >> > batch: 63 > >> >> >> > vm stats threshold: 125 > >> >> >> > cpu: 1 > >> >> >> > count: 4510 > >> >> >> > high: 6392 > >> >> >> > batch: 63 > >> >> >> > vm stats threshold: 125 > >> >> >> > cpu: 2 > >> >> >> > count: 3059 > >> >> >> > high: 6392 > >> >> >> > batch: 63 > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > ... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > The pcp high is around 100 times the batch size. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I also traced the latency associated with the free_pcppages_bulk() > >> >> >> > function during the container exit process: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > nsecs : count distribution > >> >> >> > 0 -> 1 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 2 -> 3 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 4 -> 7 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 8 -> 15 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 16 -> 31 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 32 -> 63 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 64 -> 127 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 128 -> 255 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 256 -> 511 : 148 |***************** | > >> >> >> > 512 -> 1023 : 334 |****************************************| > >> >> >> > 1024 -> 2047 : 33 |*** | > >> >> >> > 2048 -> 4095 : 5 | | > >> >> >> > 4096 -> 8191 : 7 | | > >> >> >> > 8192 -> 16383 : 12 |* | > >> >> >> > 16384 -> 32767 : 30 |*** | > >> >> >> > 32768 -> 65535 : 21 |** | > >> >> >> > 65536 -> 131071 : 15 |* | > >> >> >> > 131072 -> 262143 : 27 |*** | > >> >> >> > 262144 -> 524287 : 84 |********** | > >> >> >> > 524288 -> 1048575 : 203 |************************ | > >> >> >> > 1048576 -> 2097151 : 284 |********************************** | > >> >> >> > 2097152 -> 4194303 : 327 |*************************************** | > >> >> >> > 4194304 -> 8388607 : 215 |************************* | > >> >> >> > 8388608 -> 16777215 : 116 |************* | > >> >> >> > 16777216 -> 33554431 : 47 |***** | > >> >> >> > 33554432 -> 67108863 : 8 | | > >> >> >> > 67108864 -> 134217727 : 3 | | > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > The latency can reach tens of milliseconds. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Experimenting > >> >> >> > ============= > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > vm.percpu_pagelist_high_fraction > >> >> >> > -------------------------------- > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > The kernel version currently deployed in our production environment is the > >> >> >> > stable 6.1.y, and my initial strategy involves optimizing the > >> >> >> > >> >> >> IMHO, we should focus on upstream activity in the cover letter and patch > >> >> >> description. And I don't think that it's necessary to describe the > >> >> >> alternative solution with too much details. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > vm.percpu_pagelist_high_fraction parameter. By increasing the value of > >> >> >> > vm.percpu_pagelist_high_fraction, I aim to diminish the batch size during > >> >> >> > page draining, which subsequently leads to a substantial reduction in > >> >> >> > latency. After setting the sysctl value to 0x7fffffff, I observed a notable > >> >> >> > improvement in latency. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > nsecs : count distribution > >> >> >> > 0 -> 1 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 2 -> 3 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 4 -> 7 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 8 -> 15 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 16 -> 31 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 32 -> 63 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 64 -> 127 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 128 -> 255 : 120 | | > >> >> >> > 256 -> 511 : 365 |* | > >> >> >> > 512 -> 1023 : 201 | | > >> >> >> > 1024 -> 2047 : 103 | | > >> >> >> > 2048 -> 4095 : 84 | | > >> >> >> > 4096 -> 8191 : 87 | | > >> >> >> > 8192 -> 16383 : 4777 |************** | > >> >> >> > 16384 -> 32767 : 10572 |******************************* | > >> >> >> > 32768 -> 65535 : 13544 |****************************************| > >> >> >> > 65536 -> 131071 : 12723 |************************************* | > >> >> >> > 131072 -> 262143 : 8604 |************************* | > >> >> >> > 262144 -> 524287 : 3659 |********** | > >> >> >> > 524288 -> 1048575 : 921 |** | > >> >> >> > 1048576 -> 2097151 : 122 | | > >> >> >> > 2097152 -> 4194303 : 5 | | > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > However, augmenting vm.percpu_pagelist_high_fraction can also decrease the > >> >> >> > pcp high watermark size to a minimum of four times the batch size. While > >> >> >> > this could theoretically affect throughput, as highlighted by Ying[0], we > >> >> >> > have yet to observe any significant difference in throughput within our > >> >> >> > production environment after implementing this change. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Backporting the series "mm: PCP high auto-tuning" > >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Again, not upstream activity. We can describe the upstream behavior > >> >> >> directly. > >> >> > > >> >> > Andrew has requested that I provide a more comprehensive analysis of > >> >> > this issue, and in response, I have endeavored to outline all the > >> >> > pertinent details in a thorough and detailed manner. > >> >> > >> >> IMHO, upstream activity can provide comprehensive analysis of the issue > >> >> too. And, your patch has changed much from the first version. It's > >> >> better to describe your current version. > >> > > >> > After backporting the pcp auto-tuning feature to the 6.1.y branch, the > >> > code is almost the same with the upstream kernel wrt the pcp. I have > >> > thoroughly documented the detailed data showcasing the changes in the > >> > backported version, providing a clear picture of the results. However, > >> > it's crucial to note that I am unable to directly run the upstream > >> > kernel on our production environment due to practical constraints. > >> > >> IMHO, the patch is for upstream kernel, not some downstream kernel, so > >> focus should be the upstream activity. The issue of the upstream > >> kernel, and how to resolve it. The production environment test results > >> can be used to support the upstream change. > > > > The sole distinction in the pcp between version 6.1.y and the > > upstream kernel lies solely in the modifications made to the code by > > you. Furthermore, given that your code changes have now been > > successfully backported, what else do you expect me to do ? > > If you can run the upstream kernel directly with some proxy workloads, > it will be better. But, I understand that this may be not easy for you. > > So, what I really expect you to do is to organize the patch description > in an upstream centric way. Describe the issue of the upstream kernel, > and how do you resolve it. Although your test data comes from a > downstream kernel with the same page allocator behavior. > > >> > >> >> >> > My second endeavor was to backport the series titled > >> >> >> > "mm: PCP high auto-tuning"[1], which comprises nine individual patches, > >> >> >> > into our 6.1.y stable kernel version. Subsequent to its deployment in our > >> >> >> > production environment, I noted a pronounced reduction in latency. The > >> >> >> > observed outcomes are as enumerated below: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > nsecs : count distribution > >> >> >> > 0 -> 1 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 2 -> 3 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 4 -> 7 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 8 -> 15 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 16 -> 31 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 32 -> 63 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 64 -> 127 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 128 -> 255 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 256 -> 511 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 512 -> 1023 : 0 | | > >> >> >> > 1024 -> 2047 : 2 | | > >> >> >> > 2048 -> 4095 : 11 | | > >> >> >> > 4096 -> 8191 : 3 | | > >> >> >> > 8192 -> 16383 : 1 | | > >> >> >> > 16384 -> 32767 : 2 | | > >> >> >> > 32768 -> 65535 : 7 | | > >> >> >> > 65536 -> 131071 : 198 |********* | > >> >> >> > 131072 -> 262143 : 530 |************************ | > >> >> >> > 262144 -> 524287 : 824 |************************************** | > >> >> >> > 524288 -> 1048575 : 852 |****************************************| > >> >> >> > 1048576 -> 2097151 : 714 |********************************* | > >> >> >> > 2097152 -> 4194303 : 389 |****************** | > >> >> >> > 4194304 -> 8388607 : 143 |****** | > >> >> >> > 8388608 -> 16777215 : 29 |* | > >> >> >> > 16777216 -> 33554431 : 1 | | > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Compared to the previous data, the maximum latency has been reduced to > >> >> >> > less than 30ms. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> People don't care too much about page freeing latency during processes > >> >> >> exiting. Instead, they care more about the process exiting time, that > >> >> >> is, throughput. So, it's better to show the page allocation latency > >> >> >> which is affected by the simultaneous processes exiting. > >> >> > > >> >> > I'm confused also. Is this issue really hard to understand ? > >> >> > >> >> IMHO, it's better to prove the issue directly. If you cannot prove it > >> >> directly, you can try alternative one and describe why. > >> > > >> > Not all data can be verified straightforwardly or effortlessly. The > >> > primary focus lies in the zone->lock contention, which necessitates > >> > measuring the latency it incurs. To accomplish this, the > >> > free_pcppages_bulk() function serves as an effective tool for > >> > evaluation. Therefore, I have opted to specifically measure the > >> > latency associated with free_pcppages_bulk(). > >> > > >> > The rationale behind not measuring allocation latency is due to the > >> > necessity of finding a willing participant to endure potential delays, > >> > a task that proved unsuccessful as no one expressed interest. In > >> > contrast, assessing free_pcppages_bulk()'s latency solely requires > >> > identifying and experimenting with the source causing the delays, > >> > making it a more feasible approach. > >> > >> Can you run a benchmark program that do quite some memory allocation by > >> yourself to test it? > > > > I can have a try. > > Thanks! > > > However, is it the key point here? > > It's better to prove the issue directly instead of indirectly. > > > Why can't the lock contention be measured by the freeing? > > Have you measured the lock contention after adjusting > CONFIG_PCP_BATCH_SCALE_MAX? IIUC, the lock contention will become even > worse. Smaller CONFIG_PCP_BATCH_SCALE_MAX helps latency, but it will > hurt lock contention. I have said it several times, but it seems that > you don't agree with me. Can you prove I'm wrong with data? Now I understand the point. It seems we have different understandings regarding the zone lock contention. CPU A (Freer) CPU B (Allocator) lock zone->lock free pages lock zone->lock unlock zone->lock alloc pages unlock zone->lock If the Freer holds the zone lock for an extended period, the Allocator has to wait, right? Isn't that a lock contention issue? Lock contention affects not only CPU system usage but also latency. -- Regards Yafang