Kent! On Sun, Jun 23 2024 at 18:21, Kent Overstreet wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 12:13:36AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote: >> > + /* >> > + * We use u32s because this type is shared between the kernel and >> > + * userspace - ulong/size_t won't work here, we might be 32bit userland >> > + * and 64 bit kernel, and u64 would be preferable (reduced probability >> > + * of ABA) but not all architectures can atomically read/write to a u64; >> > + * we need to avoid torn reads/writes. >> >> union rbmagic { >> u64 __val64; >> struct { >> // TOOTIRED: Add big/little endian voodoo >> u32 __val32; >> u32 __unused; >> }; >> }; >> >> Plus a bunch of accessors which depend on BITS_PER_LONG, no? > > Not sure I follow? > > I know biendian machines exist, but I've never heard of both big and > little endian being used at the same time. Nor why we'd care about > BITS_PER_LONG? This just uses fixed size integer types. Read your comment above. Ideally you want to use u64, right? The problem is that you can't do this unconditionally because of 32-bit systems which do not support 64-bit atomics. So a binary which is compiled for 32-bit might unconditionally want the 32-bit accessors. Ditto for 32-bit kernels. The 64bit kernel where it runs on wants to utilize u64, right? That's fortunately a unidirectional problem as 64-bit user space cannot run on a 32-bit kernel ever. struct ringbuffer_ctrl { union rbmagic head; ... }; #ifdef __BITS_PER_LONG == 64 static __always_inline u64 read_head(struct ringbuffer_ctrl *rb) { return rb->head.__val64; } static __always_inline void write_head(struct ringbuffer_ctrl *rb, u64 val) { rb->head.__val64 = val; } #else static __always_inline u64 read_head(struct ringbuffer_ctrl *rb) { return rb->head.__val32; } static __always_inline void write_head(struct ringbuffer_ctrl *rb, u64 val) { rb->head.__val32 = (u32)val; } #endif A 64-bit kernel uses u64 while a 32-bit kernel uses u32. Same for user space. The ABA concern for 32-bit does not go away, but for 64-bit userspace you get what you want, no? Now why do you have to care about endianess? union rbmagic { u64 __val64; struct { u32 __val32; u32 __unused; }; }; works only correctly for LE. But it does not work for BE because BE obviously requires the u32 members to be in reverse order: union rbmagic { u64 __val64; struct { u32 __unused; u32 __val32; }; }; That's a compile time decision. You can't run a BE binary on a LE kernel or the other way around. So they have to agree on the endianess, but BE has the reverse byte order. That's why you need to have another #ifdef there. Thanks, tglx