On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 01:08:40PM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote: > Let move this discussion upstream. > > On 22/03/2024 19.32, Yosry Ahmed wrote: > > [..] > > > > There was a couple of series that made all calls to > > > > cgroup_rstat_flush() sleepable, which allows the lock to be dropped > > > > (and IRQs enabled) in between CPU iterations. This fixed a similar > > > > problem that we used to face (except in our case, we saw hard lockups > > > > in extreme scenarios): > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20230330191801.1967435-1-yosryahmed@xxxxxxxxxx/ > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20230421174020.2994750-1-yosryahmed@xxxxxxxxxx/ > > > > > > I've only done the 6.6 backport, and these were in 6.5/6.6. > > Given I have these in my 6.6 kernel. You are basically saying I should > be able to avoid IRQ-disable for the lock, right? > > My main problem with the global cgroup_rstat_lock[3] is it disables IRQs > and (thereby also) BH/softirq (spin_lock_irq). This cause production > issues elsewhere, e.g. we are seeing network softirq "not-able-to-run" > latency issues (debug via softirq_net_latency.bt [5]). > > [3] > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.9-rc3/source/kernel/cgroup/rstat.c#L10 > [5] https://github.com/xdp-project/xdp-project/blob/master/areas/latency/softirq_net_latency.bt > > > > > And between 6.1 to 6.6 we did observe an improvement in this area. > > > (Maybe I don't have to do the 6.1 backport if the 6.6 release plan progress) > > > > > > I've had a chance to get running in prod for 6.6 backport. > > > As you can see in attached grafana heatmap pictures, we do observe an > > > improved/reduced softirq wait time. > > > These softirq "not-able-to-run" outliers is *one* of the prod issues we > > > observed. As you can see, I still have other areas to improve/fix. > > > > I am not very familiar with such heatmaps, but I am glad there is an > > improvement with 6.6 and the backports. Let me know if there is > > anything I could do to help with your effort. > > The heatmaps give me an overview, but I needed a debugging tool, so I > developed some bpftrace scripts [1][2] I'm running on production. > To measure how long time we hold the cgroup rstat lock (results below). > Adding ACME and Daniel as I hope there is an easier way to measure lock > hold time and congestion. Notice tricky release/yield in > cgroup_rstat_flush_locked[4]. Have you tried: root@number:~# echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches root@number:~# perf lock contention -b find / > /dev/null contended total wait max wait avg wait type caller 8 16.32 s 7.08 s 2.04 s spinlock tick_do_update_jiffies64+0x25 2 1.58 s 1.58 s 787.88 ms spinlock raw_spin_rq_lock_nested+0x1c 19 165.77 us 24.93 us 8.72 us rwsem:R __btrfs_tree_read_lock+0x1b 17 103.15 us 16.31 us 6.07 us rwsem:R __btrfs_tree_read_lock+0x1b 3 21.45 us 7.88 us 7.15 us rwsem:R __btrfs_tree_read_lock+0x1b 1 10.62 us 10.62 us 10.62 us spinlock raw_spin_rq_lock_nested+0x1c 1 5.57 us 5.57 us 5.57 us rwsem:R __btrfs_tree_read_lock+0x1b 1 5.49 us 5.49 us 5.49 us spinlock tick_do_update_jiffies64+0x25 root@number:~# perf lock contention -b find / > /dev/null contended total wait max wait avg wait type caller 1 5.91 us 5.91 us 5.91 us rwsem:R __btrfs_tree_read_lock+0x1b root@number:~# ? There are other modes of operation: root@number:~# perf lock contention --help Usage: perf lock contention [<options>] -a, --all-cpus System-wide collection from all CPUs -b, --use-bpf use BPF program to collect lock contention stats -C, --cpu <cpu> List of cpus to monitor -E, --entries <n> display this many functions -F, --field <contended,wait_total,wait_max,avg_wait> output fields (contended / wait_total / wait_max / wait_min / avg_wait) -G, --cgroup-filter <CGROUPS> Filter specific cgroups -k, --key <wait_total> key for sorting (contended / wait_total / wait_max / wait_min / avg_wait) -l, --lock-addr show lock stats by address -L, --lock-filter <ADDRS/NAMES> Filter specific address/symbol of locks -M, --map-nr-entries <num> Max number of BPF map entries -o, --lock-owner show lock owners instead of waiters -p, --pid <pid> Trace on existing process id -S, --callstack-filter <NAMES> Filter specific function in the callstack -t, --threads show per-thread lock stats -x, --field-separator <separator> print result in CSV format with custom separator -Y, --type-filter <FLAGS> Filter specific type of locks --lock-cgroup show lock stats by cgroup --max-stack <num> Set the maximum stack depth when collecting lock contention, Default: 8 --stack-skip <n> Set the number of stack depth to skip when finding a lock caller, Default: 4 --tid <tid> Trace on existing thread id (exclusive to --pid) root@number:~# Looking at: git log tools/perf/util/bpf_skel/lock_contention.bpf.c tools/perf/builtin-lock.c Will show you more examples and details about its implementation that may help in tailoring it to your needs. - Arnaldo > My production results on 6.6 with backported patches (below signature) > vs a our normal 6.6 kernel, with script [2]. The `@lock_time_hist_ns` > shows how long time the lock+IRQs were disabled (taking into account it > can be released in the loop [4]). > > Patched kernel: > > 21:49:02 time elapsed: 43200 sec > @lock_time_hist_ns: > [2K, 4K) 61 | | > [4K, 8K) 734 | | > [8K, 16K) 121500 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ | > [16K, 32K) 385714 > |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@| > [32K, 64K) 145600 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ | > [64K, 128K) 156873 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ | > [128K, 256K) 261027 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ | > [256K, 512K) 291986 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ | > [512K, 1M) 101859 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@ | > [1M, 2M) 19866 |@@ | > [2M, 4M) 10146 |@ | > [4M, 8M) 30633 |@@@@ | > [8M, 16M) 40365 |@@@@@ | > [16M, 32M) 21650 |@@ | > [32M, 64M) 5842 | | > [64M, 128M) 8 | | > > And normal 6.6 kernel: > > 21:48:32 time elapsed: 43200 sec > @lock_time_hist_ns: > [1K, 2K) 25 | | > [2K, 4K) 1146 | | > [4K, 8K) 59397 |@@@@ | > [8K, 16K) 571528 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ | > [16K, 32K) 542648 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ | > [32K, 64K) 202810 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@ | > [64K, 128K) 134564 |@@@@@@@@@ | > [128K, 256K) 72870 |@@@@@ | > [256K, 512K) 56914 |@@@ | > [512K, 1M) 83140 |@@@@@ | > [1M, 2M) 170514 |@@@@@@@@@@@ | > [2M, 4M) 396304 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ | > [4M, 8M) 755537 > |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@| > [8M, 16M) 231222 |@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ | > [16M, 32M) 76370 |@@@@@ | > [32M, 64M) 1043 | | > [64M, 128M) 12 | | > > > For the unpatched kernel we see more events in 4ms to 8ms bucket than > any other bucket. > For patched kernel, we clearly see a significant reduction of events in > the 4 ms to 64 ms area, but we still have some events in this area. I'm > very happy to see these patches improves the situation. But for network > processing I'm not happy to see events in area 16ms to 128ms area. If > we can just avoid disabling IRQs/softirq for the lock, I would be happy. > > How far can we go... could cgroup_rstat_lock be converted to a mutex? > > --Jesper > > [1] https://github.com/xdp-project/xdp-project/blob/master/areas/latency/cgroup_rstat_latency.bt > [2] https://github.com/xdp-project/xdp-project/blob/master/areas/latency/cgroup_rstat_latency_steroids.bt > [3] > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.9-rc3/source/kernel/cgroup/rstat.c#L10 > [4] > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.9-rc3/source/kernel/cgroup/rstat.c#L226 > cgroup_rstat_flush_locked > [5] https://github.com/xdp-project/xdp-project/blob/master/areas/latency/softirq_net_latency.bt > > > > Backported to 6.6 > > List of **main** patches address issue - to backport for 6.6: > - 508bed884767 mm: memcg: change flush_next_time to flush_last_time > - v6.8-rc1~180^2~205 > - e0bf1dc859fd mm: memcg: move vmstats structs definition above flushing > code > - v6.8-rc1~180^2~204 > - 8d59d2214c23 mm: memcg: make stats flushing threshold per-memcg > - v6.8-rc1~180^2~203 > - b00684722262 mm: workingset: move the stats flush into > workingset_test_recent() > - v6.8-rc1~180^2~202 > - 7d7ef0a4686a mm: memcg: restore subtree stats flushing > - v6.8-rc1~180^2~201 > > And extra (thanks Longman) > > - e76d28bdf9ba ("cgroup/rstat: Reduce cpu_lock hold time in > cgroup_rstat_flush_locked()") > - v6.8-rc1~182^2~8 > > And list of patches that contain **fixes** for backports above: > - 9cee7e8ef3e3 mm: memcg: optimize parent iteration in > memcg_rstat_updated() > - v6.8-rc4~3^2~12 > - 13ef7424577f mm: memcg: don't periodically flush stats when memcg is > disabled > - v6.8-rc5-69-g13ef7424577f >