From: Pasha Tatashin > Sent: 18 March 2024 15:31 > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 11:19 AM Matthew Wilcox <willy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 11:09:47AM -0400, Pasha Tatashin wrote: > > > The TLB load is going to be exactly the same as today, we already use > > > small pages for VMA mapped stacks. We won't need to have extra > > > flushing either, the mappings are in the kernel space, and once pages > > > are removed from the page table, no one is going to access that VA > > > space until that thread enters the kernel again. We will need to > > > invalidate the VA range only when the pages are mapped, and only on > > > the local cpu. > > > > No; we can pass pointers to our kernel stack to other threads. The > > obvious one is a mutex; we put a mutex_waiter on our own stack and > > add its list_head to the mutex's waiter list. I'm sure you can > > think of many other places we do this (eg wait queues, poll(), select(), > > etc). > > Hm, it means that stack is sleeping in the kernel space, and has its > stack pages mapped and invalidated on the local CPU, but access from > the remote CPU to that stack pages would be problematic. > > I think we still won't need IPI, but VA-range invalidation is actually > needed on unmaps, and should happen during context switch so every > time we go off-cpu. Therefore, what Brian/Andy have suggested makes > more sense instead of kernel/enter/exit paths. I think you'll need to broadcast an invalidate. Consider: CPU A: task allocates extra pages and adds something to some list. CPU B: accesses that data and maybe modifies it. Some page-table walk setup ut the TLB. CPU A: task detects the modify, removes the item from the list, collapses back the stack and sleeps. Stack pages freed. CPU A: task wakes up (on the same cpu for simplicity). Goes down a deep stack and puts an item on a list. Different physical pages are allocated. CPU B: accesses the associated KVA. It better not have a cached TLB. Doesn't that need an IPI? Freeing the pages is much harder than allocating them. David - Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK Registration No: 1397386 (Wales)