Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@xxxxxxx> writes: > On 12/03/2024 08:49, Ryan Roberts wrote: >> On 12/03/2024 08:01, Huang, Ying wrote: >>> Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@xxxxxxx> writes: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> This series adds support for swapping out multi-size THP (mTHP) without needing >>>> to first split the large folio via split_huge_page_to_list_to_order(). It >>>> closely follows the approach already used to swap-out PMD-sized THP. >>>> >>>> There are a couple of reasons for swapping out mTHP without splitting: >>>> >>>> - Performance: It is expensive to split a large folio and under extreme memory >>>> pressure some workloads regressed performance when using 64K mTHP vs 4K >>>> small folios because of this extra cost in the swap-out path. This series >>>> not only eliminates the regression but makes it faster to swap out 64K mTHP >>>> vs 4K small folios. >>>> >>>> - Memory fragmentation avoidance: If we can avoid splitting a large folio >>>> memory is less likely to become fragmented, making it easier to re-allocate >>>> a large folio in future. >>>> >>>> - Performance: Enables a separate series [4] to swap-in whole mTHPs, which >>>> means we won't lose the TLB-efficiency benefits of mTHP once the memory has >>>> been through a swap cycle. >>>> >>>> I've done what I thought was the smallest change possible, and as a result, this >>>> approach is only employed when the swap is backed by a non-rotating block device >>>> (just as PMD-sized THP is supported today). Discussion against the RFC concluded >>>> that this is sufficient. >>>> >>>> >>>> Performance Testing >>>> =================== >>>> >>>> I've run some swap performance tests on Ampere Altra VM (arm64) with 8 CPUs. The >>>> VM is set up with a 35G block ram device as the swap device and the test is run >>>> from inside a memcg limited to 40G memory. I've then run `usemem` from >>>> vm-scalability with 70 processes, each allocating and writing 1G of memory. I've >>>> repeated everything 6 times and taken the mean performance improvement relative >>>> to 4K page baseline: >>>> >>>> | alloc size | baseline | + this series | >>>> | | v6.6-rc4+anonfolio | | >>>> |:-----------|--------------------:|--------------------:| >>>> | 4K Page | 0.0% | 1.4% | >>>> | 64K THP | -14.6% | 44.2% | >>>> | 2M THP | 87.4% | 97.7% | >>>> >>>> So with this change, the 64K swap performance goes from a 15% regression to a >>>> 44% improvement. 4K and 2M swap improves slightly too. >>> >>> I don't understand why the performance of 2M THP improves. The swap >>> entry allocation becomes a little slower. Can you provide some >>> perf-profile to root cause it? >> >> I didn't post the stdev, which is quite large (~10%), so that may explain some >> of it: >> >> | kernel | mean_rel | std_rel | >> |:---------|-----------:|----------:| >> | base-4K | 0.0% | 5.5% | >> | base-64K | -14.6% | 3.8% | >> | base-2M | 87.4% | 10.6% | >> | v4-4K | 1.4% | 3.7% | >> | v4-64K | 44.2% | 11.8% | >> | v4-2M | 97.7% | 13.3% | >> >> Regardless, I'll do some perf profiling and post results shortly. > > I did a lot more runs (24 for each config) and meaned them to try to remove the > noise in the measurements. It's now only showing a 4% improvement for 2M. So I > don't think the 2M improvement is real: > > | kernel | mean_rel | std_rel | > |:---------|-----------:|----------:| > | base-4K | 0.0% | 3.2% | > | base-64K | -9.1% | 10.1% | > | base-2M | 88.9% | 6.8% | > | v4-4K | 0.5% | 3.1% | > | v4-64K | 44.7% | 8.3% | > | v4-2M | 93.3% | 7.8% | > > Looking at the perf data, the only thing that sticks out is that a big chunk of > time is spent in during contpte_convert(), called as a result of > try_to_unmap_one(). This is present in both the before and after configs. > > This is an arm64 function to "unfold" contpte mappings. Essentially, the PMD is > being split during shrink_folio_list() with TTU_SPLIT_HUGE_PMD, meaning the > THPs are PTE-mapped in contpte blocks. Then we are unmapping each pte one-by-one > which means the contpte block needs to be unfolded. I think try_to_unmap_one() > could potentially be optimized to batch unmap a contiguously mapped folio and > avoid this unfold. But that would be an independent and separate piece of work. Thanks for more data and detailed explanation. -- Best Regards, Huang, Ying