On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 4:30 PM Chris Down <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Axel Rasmussen writes: > >A couple of dumb questions. In your test, do you have any of the following > >configured / enabled? > > > >/proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode > >memory.low > >memory.min > > None of these are enabled. The issue is trivially reproducible by writing to > any slow device with memory.max enabled, but from the code it looks like MGLRU > is also susceptible to this on global reclaim (although it's less likely due to > page diversity). > > >Besides that, it looks like the place non-MGLRU reclaim wakes up the > >flushers is in shrink_inactive_list() (which calls wakeup_flusher_threads()). > >Since MGLRU calls shrink_folio_list() directly (from evict_folios()), I agree it > >looks like it simply will not do this. > > > >Yosry pointed out [1], where MGLRU used to call this but stopped doing that. It > >makes sense to me at least that doing writeback every time we age is too > >aggressive, but doing it in evict_folios() makes some sense to me, basically to > >copy the behavior the non-MGLRU path (shrink_inactive_list()) has. > > Thanks! We may also need reclaim_throttle(), depending on how you implement it. > Current non-MGLRU behaviour on slow storage is also highly suspect in terms of > (lack of) throttling after moving away from VMSCAN_THROTTLE_WRITEBACK, but one > thing at a time :-) Hmm, so I have a patch which I think will help with this situation, but I'm having some trouble reproducing the problem on 6.8-rc7 (so then I can verify the patch fixes it). If I understand the issue right, all we should need to do is get a slow filesystem, and then generate a bunch of dirty file pages on it, while running in a tightly constrained memcg. To that end, I tried the following script. But, in reality I seem to get little or no accumulation of dirty file pages. I thought maybe fio does something different than rsync which you said you originally tried, so I also tried rsync (copying /usr/bin into this loop mount) and didn't run into an OOM situation either. Maybe some dirty ratio settings need tweaking or something to get the behavior you see? Or maybe my test has a dumb mistake in it. :) #!/usr/bin/env bash echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode || exit 1 echo y > /sys/kernel/mm/lru_gen/enabled || exit 1 echo "Allocate disk image" IMAGE_SIZE_MIB=1024 IMAGE_PATH=/tmp/slow.img dd if=/dev/zero of=$IMAGE_PATH bs=1024k count=$IMAGE_SIZE_MIB || exit 1 echo "Setup loop device" LOOP_DEV=$(losetup --show --find $IMAGE_PATH) || exit 1 LOOP_BLOCKS=$(blockdev --getsize $LOOP_DEV) || exit 1 echo "Create dm-slow" DM_NAME=dm-slow DM_DEV=/dev/mapper/$DM_NAME echo "0 $LOOP_BLOCKS delay $LOOP_DEV 0 100" | dmsetup create $DM_NAME || exit 1 echo "Create fs" mkfs.ext4 "$DM_DEV" || exit 1 echo "Mount fs" MOUNT_PATH="/tmp/$DM_NAME" mkdir -p "$MOUNT_PATH" || exit 1 mount -t ext4 "$DM_DEV" "$MOUNT_PATH" || exit 1 echo "Generate dirty file pages" systemd-run --wait --pipe --collect -p MemoryMax=32M \ fio -name=writes -directory=$MOUNT_PATH -readwrite=randwrite \ -numjobs=10 -nrfiles=90 -filesize=1048576 \ -fallocate=posix \ -blocksize=4k -ioengine=mmap \ -direct=0 -buffered=1 -fsync=0 -fdatasync=0 -sync=0 \ -runtime=300 -time_based