On 04/03/2024 21:04, Barry Song wrote: > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 1:41 AM David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On 04.03.24 13:20, Ryan Roberts wrote: >>> Hi Barry, >>> >>> On 04/03/2024 10:37, Barry Song wrote: >>>> From: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@xxxxxxxx> >>>> >>>> page_vma_mapped_walk() within try_to_unmap_one() races with other >>>> PTEs modification such as break-before-make, while iterating PTEs >>>> of a large folio, it will only begin to acquire PTL after it gets >>>> a valid(present) PTE. break-before-make intermediately sets PTEs >>>> to pte_none. Thus, a large folio's PTEs might be partially skipped >>>> in try_to_unmap_one(). >>> >>> I just want to check my understanding here - I think the problem occurs for >>> PTE-mapped, PMD-sized folios as well as smaller-than-PMD-size large folios? Now >>> that I've had a look at the code and have a better understanding, I think that >>> must be the case? And therefore this problem exists independently of my work to >>> support swap-out of mTHP? (From your previous report I was under the impression >>> that it only affected mTHP). >>> >>> Its just that the problem is becoming more pronounced because with mTHP, >>> PTE-mapped large folios are much more common? >> >> That is my understanding. >> >>> >>>> For example, for an anon folio, after try_to_unmap_one(), we may >>>> have PTE0 present, while PTE1 ~ PTE(nr_pages - 1) are swap entries. >>>> So folio will be still mapped, the folio fails to be reclaimed. >>>> What’s even more worrying is, its PTEs are no longer in a unified >>>> state. This might lead to accident folio_split() afterwards. And >>>> since a part of PTEs are now swap entries, accessing them will >>>> incur page fault - do_swap_page. >>>> It creates both anxiety and more expense. While we can't avoid >>>> userspace's unmap to break up unified PTEs such as CONT-PTE for >>>> a large folio, we can indeed keep away from kernel's breaking up >>>> them due to its code design. >>>> This patch is holding PTL from PTE0, thus, the folio will either >>>> be entirely reclaimed or entirely kept. On the other hand, this >>>> approach doesn't increase PTL contention. Even w/o the patch, >>>> page_vma_mapped_walk() will always get PTL after it sometimes >>>> skips one or two PTEs because intermediate break-before-makes >>>> are short, according to test. Of course, even w/o this patch, >>>> the vast majority of try_to_unmap_one still can get PTL from >>>> PTE0. This patch makes the number 100%. >>>> The other option is that we can give up in try_to_unmap_one >>>> once we find PTE0 is not the first entry we get PTL, we call >>>> page_vma_mapped_walk_done() to end the iteration at this case. >>>> This will keep the unified PTEs while the folio isn't reclaimed. >>>> The result is quite similar with small folios with one PTE - >>>> either entirely reclaimed or entirely kept. >>>> Reclaiming large folios by holding PTL from PTE0 seems a better >>>> option comparing to giving up after detecting PTL begins from >>>> non-PTE0. >>>> >> >> I'm sure that wall of text can be formatted in a better way :) . Also, I >> think we can drop some of the details, >> >> If you need some inspiration, I can give it a shot. >> >>>> Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Signed-off-by: Barry Song <v-songbaohua@xxxxxxxx> >>> >>> Do we need a Fixes tag? It seems my original question has snowballed a bit. I was conflating this change with other reports Barry has made where the kernel was panicking (I think?). Given we are not seeing any incorrect functional behaviour that this change fixes, I agree we don't need a Fixes tag here.