On 01/03/2024 16:44, Ryan Roberts wrote: > On 01/03/2024 16:31, Matthew Wilcox wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 01, 2024 at 04:27:32PM +0000, Ryan Roberts wrote: >>> I've implemented the batching as David suggested, and I'm pretty confident it's >>> correct. The only problem is that during testing I can't provoke the code to >>> take the path. I've been pouring through the code but struggling to figure out >>> under what situation you would expect the swap entry passed to >>> free_swap_and_cache() to still have a cached folio? Does anyone have any idea? >>> >>> This is the original (unbatched) function, after my change, which caused David's >>> concern that we would end up calling __try_to_reclaim_swap() far too much: >>> >>> int free_swap_and_cache(swp_entry_t entry) >>> { >>> struct swap_info_struct *p; >>> unsigned char count; >>> >>> if (non_swap_entry(entry)) >>> return 1; >>> >>> p = _swap_info_get(entry); >>> if (p) { >>> count = __swap_entry_free(p, entry); >>> if (count == SWAP_HAS_CACHE) >>> __try_to_reclaim_swap(p, swp_offset(entry), >>> TTRS_UNMAPPED | TTRS_FULL); >>> } >>> return p != NULL; >>> } >>> >>> The trouble is, whenever its called, count is always 0, so >>> __try_to_reclaim_swap() never gets called. >>> >>> My test case is allocating 1G anon memory, then doing madvise(MADV_PAGEOUT) over >>> it. Then doing either a munmap() or madvise(MADV_FREE), both of which cause this >>> function to be called for every PTE, but count is always 0 after >>> __swap_entry_free() so __try_to_reclaim_swap() is never called. I've tried for >>> order-0 as well as PTE- and PMD-mapped 2M THP. >> >> I think you have to page it back in again, then it will have an entry in >> the swap cache. Maybe. I know little about anon memory ;-) > > Ahh, I was under the impression that the original folio is put into the swap > cache at swap out, then (I guess) its removed once the IO is complete? I'm sure > I'm miles out... what exactly is the lifecycle of a folio going through swap out? > > I guess I can try forking after swap out, then fault it back in in the child and > exit. Then do the munmap in the parent. I guess that could force it? Thanks for > the tip - I'll have a play. That has sort of solved it, the only problem now is that all the folios in the swap cache are small (because I don't have Barry's large swap-in series). So really I need to figure out how to avoid removing the folio from the cache in the first place... > >> >> If that doesn't work, perhaps use tmpfs, and use some memory pressure to >> force that to swap? >> >>> I'm guessing the swapcache was already reclaimed as part of MADV_PAGEOUT? I'm >>> using a block ram device as my backing store - I think this does synchronous IO >>> so perhaps if I have a real block device with async IO I might have more luck? >>> Just a guess... >>> >>> Or perhaps this code path is a corner case? In which case, perhaps its not worth >>> adding the batching optimization after all? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ryan >>> >