Re: [PATCH v5 bpf-next 0/5] mm, security, bpf: Fine-grained control over memory policy adjustments with lsm bpf

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On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 10:35 PM Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 23, 2023 at 8:16 AM Paul Moore <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 7:51 AM Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > Background
> > > ==========
> > >
> > > In our containerized environment, we've identified unexpected OOM events
> > > where the OOM-killer terminates tasks despite having ample free memory.
> > > This anomaly is traced back to tasks within a container using mbind(2) to
> > > bind memory to a specific NUMA node. When the allocated memory on this node
> > > is exhausted, the OOM-killer, prioritizing tasks based on oom_score,
> > > indiscriminately kills tasks.
> > >
> > > The Challenge
> > > =============
> > >
> > > In a containerized environment, independent memory binding by a user can
> > > lead to unexpected system issues or disrupt tasks being run by other users
> > > on the same server. If a user genuinely requires memory binding, we will
> > > allocate dedicated servers to them by leveraging kubelet deployment.
> > >
> > > Currently, users possess the ability to autonomously bind their memory to
> > > specific nodes without explicit agreement or authorization from our end.
> > > It's imperative that we establish a method to prevent this behavior.
> > >
> > > Proposed Solution
> > > =================
> > >
> > > - Capability
> > >   Currently, any task can perform MPOL_BIND without specific capabilities.
> > >   Enforcing CAP_SYS_RESOURCE or CAP_SYS_NICE could be an option, but this
> > >   may have unintended consequences. Capabilities, being broad, might grant
> > >   unnecessary privileges. We should explore alternatives to prevent
> > >   unexpected side effects.
> > >
> > > - LSM
> > >   Introduce LSM hooks for syscalls such as mbind(2) and set_mempolicy(2)
> > >   to disable MPOL_BIND. This approach is more flexibility and allows for
> > >   fine-grained control without unintended consequences. A sample LSM BPF
> > >   program is included, demonstrating practical implementation in a
> > >   production environment.
> > >
> > > - seccomp
> > >   seccomp is relatively heavyweight, making it less suitable for
> > >   enabling in our production environment:
> > >   - Both kubelet and containers need adaptation to support it.
> > >   - Dynamically altering security policies for individual containers
> > >     without interrupting their operations isn't straightforward.
> > >
> > > Future Considerations
> > > =====================
> > >
> > > In addition, there's room for enhancement in the OOM-killer for cases
> > > involving CONSTRAINT_MEMORY_POLICY. It would be more beneficial to
> > > prioritize selecting a victim that has allocated memory on the same NUMA
> > > node. My exploration on the lore led me to a proposal[0] related to this
> > > matter, although consensus seems elusive at this point. Nevertheless,
> > > delving into this specific topic is beyond the scope of the current
> > > patchset.
> > >
> > > [0]. https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220512044634.63586-1-ligang.bdlg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx/
> > >
> > > Changes:
> > > - v4 -> v5:
> > >   - Revise the commit log in patch #5. (KP)
> > > - v3 -> v4: https://lwn.net/Articles/954126/
> > >   - Drop the changes around security_task_movememory (Serge)
> > > - RCC v2 -> v3: https://lwn.net/Articles/953526/
> > >   - Add MPOL_F_NUMA_BALANCING man-page (Ying)
> > >   - Fix bpf selftests error reported by bot+bpf-ci
> > > - RFC v1 -> RFC v2: https://lwn.net/Articles/952339/
> > >   - Refine the commit log to avoid misleading
> > >   - Use one common lsm hook instead and add comment for it
> > >   - Add selinux implementation
> > >   - Other improments in mempolicy
> > > - RFC v1: https://lwn.net/Articles/951188/
> > >
> > > Yafang Shao (5):
> > >   mm, doc: Add doc for MPOL_F_NUMA_BALANCING
> > >   mm: mempolicy: Revise comment regarding mempolicy mode flags
> > >   mm, security: Add lsm hook for memory policy adjustment
> > >   security: selinux: Implement set_mempolicy hook
> > >   selftests/bpf: Add selftests for set_mempolicy with a lsm prog
> > >
> > >  .../admin-guide/mm/numa_memory_policy.rst          | 27 +++++++
> > >  include/linux/lsm_hook_defs.h                      |  3 +
> > >  include/linux/security.h                           |  9 +++
> > >  include/uapi/linux/mempolicy.h                     |  2 +-
> > >  mm/mempolicy.c                                     |  8 +++
> > >  security/security.c                                | 13 ++++
> > >  security/selinux/hooks.c                           |  8 +++
> > >  security/selinux/include/classmap.h                |  2 +-
> > >  .../selftests/bpf/prog_tests/set_mempolicy.c       | 84 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >  .../selftests/bpf/progs/test_set_mempolicy.c       | 28 ++++++++
> > >  10 files changed, 182 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > >  create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/bpf/prog_tests/set_mempolicy.c
> > >  create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/bpf/progs/test_set_mempolicy.c
> >
> > In your original patchset there was a lot of good discussion about
> > ways to solve, or mitigate, this problem using existing mechanisms;
> > while you disputed many (all?) of those suggestions, I felt that they
> > still had merit over your objections.
>
> JFYI. The initial patchset presents three suggestions:
> - Disabling CONFIG_NUMA, proposed by Michal:
>   By default, tasks on a server allocate memory from their local
> memory node initially. Disabling CONFIG_NUMA could potentially lead to
> a performance hit.
>
> - Adjusting NUMA workload configuration, also from Michal:
>   This adjustment has been successfully implemented on some dedicated
> clusters, as mentioned in the commit log. However, applying this
> change universally across a large fleet of servers might result in
> significant wastage of physical memory.
>
> - Implementing seccomp, suggested by Ondrej and Casey:
>   As indicated in the commit log, altering the security policy
> dynamically without interrupting a running container isn't
> straightforward. Implementing seccomp requires the introduction of an
> eBPF-based seccomp, which constitutes a substantial change.
>   [ The seccomp maintainer has been added to this mail thread for
> further discussion. ]

The seccomp filter runs cBFF (classic BPF) and not eBPF; there are a
number of sandboxing tools designed to make this easier to use,
including systemd, and if you need to augment your existing
application there are libraries available to make this easier.

> > I also don't believe the
> > SELinux implementation of the set_mempolicy hook fits with the
> > existing SELinux philosophy of access control via type enforcement;
> > outside of some checks on executable memory and low memory ranges,
> > SELinux doesn't currently enforce policy on memory ranges like this,
> > SELinux focuses more on tasks being able to access data/resources on
> > the system.
> >
> > My current opinion is that you should pursue some of the mitigations
> > that have already been mentioned, including seccomp and/or a better
> > NUMA workload configuration.  I would also encourage you to pursue the
> > OOM improvement you briefly described.  All of those seem like better
> > options than this new LSM/SELinux hook.
>
> Using the OOM solution should not be our primary approach. Whenever
> possible, we should prioritize alternative solutions to prevent
> encountering the OOM situation.

It's a good thing that there exist other options.

-- 
paul-moore.com





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