Jeff Xu <jeffxu@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > In short, BSD's immutable is designed specific for libc case, and Chrome > case is just different (e.g. the lifetime of those mappings and requirement of > free/discard unused memory). That is not true. During the mimmutable design I took the entire software ecosystem into consideration. Not just libc. That is either uncharitable or uninformed. In OpenBSD, pretty much the only thing which calls mimmutable() is the shared library linker, which does so on all possible regions of all DSO objects, not just libc. For example, chrome loads 96 libraries, and all their text/data/bss/etc are immutable. All the static address space is immutable. It's the same for all other programs running in OpenBSD -- only transient heap and mmap spaces remain permission mutable. It is not just libc. What you are trying to do here with chrome is bring some sort of soft-immutable management to regions of memory, so that trusted parts of chrome can still change the permissions, but untrusted / gadgetry parts of chrome cannot change the permissions. That's a very different thing than what I set out to do with mimmutable(). I'm not aware of any other piece of software that needs this. I still can't wrap my head around the assurance model of the design. Maybe it is time to stop comparing mseal() to mimmutable(). Also, maybe this proposal should be using the name chromesyscall() instead -- then it could be extended indefinitely in the future...