Re: [RFC PATCH -mm 0/4] mm, security, bpf: Fine-grained control over memory policy adjustments with lsm bpf

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On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 4:17 AM Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 12:45 AM Casey Schaufler <casey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On 11/11/2023 11:34 PM, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > > Background
> > > ==========
> > >
> > > In our containerized environment, we've identified unexpected OOM events
> > > where the OOM-killer terminates tasks despite having ample free memory.
> > > This anomaly is traced back to tasks within a container using mbind(2) to
> > > bind memory to a specific NUMA node. When the allocated memory on this node
> > > is exhausted, the OOM-killer, prioritizing tasks based on oom_score,
> > > indiscriminately kills tasks. This becomes more critical with guaranteed
> > > tasks (oom_score_adj: -998) aggravating the issue.
> >
> > Is there some reason why you can't fix the callers of mbind(2)?
> > This looks like an user space configuration error rather than a
> > system security issue.
>
> It appears my initial description may have caused confusion. In this
> scenario, the caller is an unprivileged user lacking any capabilities.
> While a privileged user, such as root, experiencing this issue might
> indicate a user space configuration error, the concerning aspect is
> the potential for an unprivileged user to disrupt the system easily.
> If this is perceived as a misconfiguration, the question arises: What
> is the correct configuration to prevent an unprivileged user from
> utilizing mbind(2)?"
>
> >
> > >
> > > The selected victim might not have allocated memory on the same NUMA node,
> > > rendering the killing ineffective. This patch aims to address this by
> > > disabling MPOL_BIND in container environments.
> > >
> > > In the container environment, our aim is to consolidate memory resource
> > > control under the management of kubelet. If users express a preference for
> > > binding their memory to a specific NUMA node, we encourage the adoption of
> > > a standardized approach. Specifically, we recommend configuring this memory
> > > policy through kubelet using cpuset.mems in the cpuset controller, rather
> > > than individual users setting it autonomously. This centralized approach
> > > ensures that NUMA nodes are globally managed through kubelet, promoting
> > > consistency and facilitating streamlined administration of memory resources
> > > across the entire containerized environment.
> >
> > Changing system behavior for a single use case doesn't seem prudent.
> > You're introducing a bunch of kernel code to avoid fixing a broken
> > user space configuration.
>
> Currently, there is no mechanism in place to proactively prevent an
> unprivileged user from utilizing mbind(2). The approach adopted is to
> monitor mbind(2) through a BPF program and trigger an alert if its
> usage is detected. However, beyond this monitoring, the only recourse
> is to verbally communicate with the user, advising against the use of
> mbind(2). As a result, users will question why mbind(2) isn't outright
> prohibited in the first place.

Is there a reason why you can't use syscall filtering via seccomp(2)?
AFAIK, all the mainstream container tooling already has support for
specifying seccomp filters for containers.

-- 
Ondrej Mosnacek
Senior Software Engineer, Linux Security - SELinux kernel
Red Hat, Inc.






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