Re: [RFC 0/4] Introduce unbalance proactive reclaim

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在 2023/11/9 18:39, Michal Hocko 写道:
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On Thu 09-11-23 18:29:03, Huan Yang wrote:
HI Michal Hocko,

Thanks for your suggestion.

在 2023/11/9 17:57, Michal Hocko 写道:
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On Thu 09-11-23 11:38:56, Huan Yang wrote:
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If so, is it better only to reclaim private anonymous pages explicitly?
Yes, in practice, we only proactively compress anonymous pages and do not
want to touch file pages.
If that is the case and this is mostly application centric (which you
seem to be suggesting) then why don't you use madvise(MADV_PAGEOUT)
instead.
Madvise  may not be applicable in this scenario.(IMO)

This feature is aimed at a core goal, which is to compress the anonymous
pages
of frozen applications.

How to detect that an application is frozen and determine which pages can be
safely reclaimed is the responsibility of the policy part.

Setting madvise for an application is an active behavior, while the above
policy
is a passive approach.(If I misunderstood, please let me know if there is a
better
way to set madvise.)
You are proposing an extension to the pro-active reclaim interface so
this is an active behavior pretty much by definition. So I am really not
following you here. Your agent can simply scan the address space of the
application it is going to "freeze" and call pidfd_madvise(MADV_PAGEOUT)
on the private memory is that is really what you want/need.
There is a key point here. We want to use the grouping policy of memcg to perform proactive reclamation with certain tendencies. Your suggestion is to reclaim memory by scanning the task process space. However, in the mobile field, memory is usually
viewed at the granularity of an APP.

Therefore, after an APP is frozen, we hope to reclaim memory uniformly according
to the pre-grouped APP processes.

Of course, as you suggested, madvise can also achieve this, but implementing it in the agent may be more complex.(In terms of achieving the same goal, using memcg to group all the processes of an APP and perform proactive reclamation is simpler than using madvise and scanning multiple processes of an application using an agent?)


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Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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Thanks,
Huan Yang





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