Re: [v3 0/3] Reduce TLB flushes under some specific conditions

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On 30.10.23 23:55, Byungchul Park wrote:
On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 10:55:07AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
On 10/30/23 00:25, Byungchul Park wrote:
I'm suggesting a mechanism to reduce TLB flushes by keeping source and
destination of folios participated in the migrations until all TLB
flushes required are done, only if those folios are not mapped with
write permission PTE entries at all. I worked Based on v6.6-rc5.

There's a lot of common overhead here, on top of the complexity in general:

  * A new page flag
  * A new cpumask_t in task_struct
  * A new zone list
  * Extra (temporary) memory consumption

and the benefits are ... "performance improved a little bit" on one
workload.  That doesn't seem like a good overall tradeoff to me.

There will certainly be workloads that, before this patch, would have
little or no memory pressure and after this patch would need to do reclaim.

'if (gain - cost) > 0 ?'" is a difficult problem. I think the followings
are already big benefit in general:

	1. big reduction of IPIs #
	2. big reduction of TLB flushes #
	3. big reduction of TLB misses #

Of course, I or we need to keep trying to see a better number in
end-to-end performance.

You'll have to show convincing, real numbers, for use cases people care about, to even motivate why people should consider looking at this in more detail.

If you can't measure it and only speculate, nobody cares.

The numbers you provided were so far not convincing, and it's questionable if the single benchmark you are presenting represents a reasonable real workload that ends up improving *real* workloads. A better description of the whole benchmark and why it represents a real workload behavior might help.

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Cheers,

David / dhildenb





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