On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 at 14:28, David Hildenbrand <david@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > This is my proposal on how to handle the fallout of 474098edac26 > ("mm/gup: replace FOLL_NUMA by gup_can_follow_protnone()") where I > accidentially missed that follow_page() and smaps implicitly kept the > FOLL_NUMA flag clear by *not* setting it if FOLL_FORCE is absent, to > not trigger faults on PROT_NONE-mapped PTEs. Ugh. I hate how it uses FOLL_FORCE that is inherently scary. Why do we have that "gup_can_follow_protnone()" logic AT ALL? Couldn't we just get rid of that disgusting thing, and just say that GUP (and follow_page()) always just ignores NUMA hinting, and always just follows protnone? We literally used to have this: if (!(gup_flags & FOLL_FORCE)) gup_flags |= FOLL_NUMA; ie we *always* set FOLL_NUMA for any sane situation. FOLL_FORCE should be the rare crazy case. The original reason for not setting FOLL_NUMA all the time is documented in commit 0b9d705297b2 ("mm: numa: Support NUMA hinting page faults from gup/gup_fast") from way back in 2012: * If FOLL_FORCE and FOLL_NUMA are both set, handle_mm_fault * would be called on PROT_NONE ranges. We must never invoke * handle_mm_fault on PROT_NONE ranges or the NUMA hinting * page faults would unprotect the PROT_NONE ranges if * _PAGE_NUMA and _PAGE_PROTNONE are sharing the same pte/pmd * bitflag. So to avoid that, don't set FOLL_NUMA if * FOLL_FORCE is set. but I don't think the original reason for this is *true* any more. Because then two years later in 2014, in commit c46a7c817e66 ("x86: define _PAGE_NUMA by reusing software bits on the PMD and PTE levels") Mel made the code able to distinguish between PROT_NONE and NUMA pages, and he changed the comment above too. But I get the very very strong feeling that instead of changing the comment, he should have actually removed the comment and the code. So I get the strong feeling that all these FOLL_NUMA games should just go away. You removed the FOLL_NUMA bit, but you replaced it with using FOLL_FORCE. So rather than make this all even more opaque and make it even harder to figure out why we have that code in the first place, I think it should all just be removed. The original reason for FOLL_NUMA simply does not exist any more. We know exactly when a page is marked for NUMA faulting, and we should simply *ignore* it for GUP and follow_page(). I think we should treat a NUMA-faulting page as just being present (and not NUMA-fault it). Am I missing something? Linus